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Originally posted by blooming lotus
did you just do a 360??.. fine…continue to use your incorrect and I won’t even mention it… look I’m an English teachers teacher and I don’t know nor care if alot of you are even educated… sorry, going with the obvious here… like I said, do what pleases you…

Was this aimed at me?

Originally posted by blooming lotus
did you just do a 360

only this, with half a tongue in cheek…

the rest was generic…

OK. Well, no I did not do a 360. I think Goldenmane summed it up correctly. Basically, there is no difference in the use of the apostrophe in Australia or the USA - the same rules apply. It is just that an alarmingly large number of people get its usage wrong (notice my use of the correct ‘its’ :D).

LOL! BL is now questioning OUR education, because she can’t even accept the proven fact that she’s wrong! :stuck_out_tongue:

That’s it BL, it’s the whole REST of the world who’s wrong, YOU’RE the only one who’s right. Why can’t those stupid people just change all the English textbooks to reflect YOUR view of things? They’re just stupid BL. You’re the one who knows the truth, just keep believing that! :stuck_out_tongue: :stuck_out_tongue: :stuck_out_tongue:

Every day it gets funnier!

BL - you’re an idiot on so many levels.

Originally posted by joedoe
OK. Well, no I did not do a 360. I think Goldenmane summed it up correctly. Basically, there is no difference in the use of the apostrophe in Australia or the USA - the same rules apply. It is just that an alarmingly large number of people get its usage wrong (notice my use of the correct ‘its’ :D).

lol…

hmmmm… tomayto tomatoe ha??

:wink:

Originally posted by blooming lotus
[B]lol…

hmmmm… tomayto tomatoe ha??

:wink: [/B]

Not quite sure what you mean by that. The problem is very widespread - so many Aussies get it wrong too. It is that big a problem that someone has written a book to educate people on punctuation, and it has become a best seller!

I’m away from the computer for the weekend and Eyebrows wants to correct my spelling?

Originally posted by blooming lotus
ps…in ownership the apostrophe comes after the s …Eg : mothers’…
Eyebrows, how many mothers do you have? You see, I was under the misguided assumption that it was one. If you do indeed have one mother, then I’m right and you’re wrong. If OTOH you’ve got more than one, all power to you and you unearthed my atrocious spelling. Either way, thanks for the concern. You showed as much care over my spelling as you always do for your own. Once again you show your intelligence and mastery of the English language (American, Australian or “colloquial” :rolleyes: ).

BTW, joedoe said that:

Originally posted by joedoe
Basically, there is no difference in the use of the apostrophe in Australia or the USA - the same rules apply.

Not “Basically, there is no difference in the use of spelling in Australia or the USA - the same rules apply.” So tomayto (sic) tomatoe (sic) is another example of a crappy example arguing a different point altogether.

BTW 2, nice diversion away from the “I suck as a mother” direction.

Once again, she’s proven wrong so she disappears to fill another thread with bull.

thank you for both your arrogance and ignorance… have just constructed ( by virtue of education and experience) an english teaching curriculum for teaching methodology to local teachers.but thx for your comments :rolleyes:

Just for the record…

The differences between Australian and American English are very few indeed, and are primarially issues of spelling.

Australians use the Queen’s English spelling of words like “humour” and honour (“our” replaces “or”) or “Missile” and “Aluminium” where additional letter(s) “i” are added and reflected in a different pronunciation.

Likewise, Australians still accept doubled consonants before suffexes whereas Americans have eliminated them, i.e. “travelling” or “programme” but this is becomming less popular, and many dictionaries now list it as an alternate as opposed to primary choice.

And of course, as with the Queens English, Australians use an “s” as opposed to a “z” in the suffex “ise” i.e. “organise”.

Now you will find that there is a bit of a dual identity, where some Corporations tend to use the American spelling because they labour under the misconception that it is somehow more ‘modern.’ Whereas the truth is, they are most likely reproducing corporate copy from American sources, and can’t be bothered.

The grammar is the same, but. (grin)

Granted, the internet has opened lots of doors for innovative communication, and creative use of grammar, diction, even spelling, however elegance remains elegance, and crap remains crap, even in the colloquial.

And, if you wish to work with language and written communication, then it should become second nature, and you should fall in love with it, otherwise, it’s a long road of pain.

And, I believe there is only one way to spell potato.

one more time…

's , is no more than an abbreviation ( as an appostphe is always unless indicating ownership in which case it follows the s changing the individual word syntax ( structure) )…bearing this in mind, you are quite clearly misinformed

Re: one more time…

Originally posted by blooming lotus
's , is no more than an abbreviation ( as an appostphe is always unless indicating ownership in which case it follows the s changing the individual word syntax ( structure) )…bearing this in mind, you are quite clearly misinformed

OK, this is my understanding of the use of the apostrophe (BTW why the he|| are we arguing about this anyway? :)):

The 's is used either to indicate ownership (e.g. my brother’s house), or as a contraction (e.g. from “what is” to “what’s”).

An exception is “its” and “it’s”, where “its” is used to denote ownership and “it’s” is a contraction of “it is”.

Another usage note is when the word already ends in an “s” (e.g. blooming lotus’ shoes), or where ownership applies to a plural (e.g. the students’ bar).

Please correct me if I am wrong.

my brother’s house = my brother is house ??? :confused:

no… the house belongs to my brother so it’s ( it is) my brothers’ house…

if I have 2 brothers ( plural) who own the house, the house belongs to my brothers = my brothers’ ( ownership in plural) house …dong ma??? or for politeness … dong / bu dong???

Originally posted by blooming lotus
[B]my brother’s house = my brother is house ??? :confused:

no… the house belongs to my brother so it’s ( it is) my brothers’ house…

if I have 2 brothers ( plural) who own the house, the house belongs to my brothers = my brothers’ ( ownership in plural) house …dong ma??? or for politeness … dong / bu dong??? [/B]

Hmmm. That conflicts with my understanding of how it is used, but I will take your word for it.

Hmmm. These websites concur with my understanding of it:

http://owl.english.purdue.edu/handouts/grammar/g_apost.html

http://www.users.bigpond.com/J_fersOffice/sample.htm

I can’t open your links and have no idea who wrote the articles nor where they studied… so I’m just going to have to go with logical syntax …

Originally posted by blooming lotus
I can’t open your links and have no idea who wrote the articles nor where they studied… so I’m just going to have to go with logical syntax …

No worries :). It is a kinda silly argument anyway :smiley:

and sooo totally relevant to a persons’ committment and / or skill in gongfu :rolleyes: :wink: :stuck_out_tongue: :smiley:

It’s not logical you moron. It’s stupidity that you’re going with. I’m not even going to give you the benefit of the doubt and say it’s ignorance because (surprise, surprise) you’re sticking with your incorrect crap in the face of evidence. joedoe provided two links that show the correct way. Do a search yourself if you can’t open them. There are two forms of apostrophe use that spring to mind for me (there may be more obscure ones but these two are the common ones) - contractive and possessive. Contractive’s most obvious example is abbreviating “BL is a moron” to “BL’s a moron”. Possessive is used to indicate possession (duh) “The car’s headlights”, not “The cars’ headlights”.

What I find particularly funny is how you keep trying to appeal to your authority as a teacher and you’re still wrong. Perhaps you should revise your “english teaching curriculum for teaching methodology to local teacher(s)”. It’s truly sad that you’re their source of information.