it all starts with the little junk food. bits here and there. first trying your big macs and french fries, then seeing the adds and tempting you for more, then the ease of the drive through the convenience of price and location…its just like your neighborhood crack dealer. and no, im not joking one bit.
gate way junk food. then comes the full bown fast food ADDICTION, thats right addiction. refute that if you want, you would be wrong. so sorry.
[QUOTE=Lucas;1010246]it all starts with the little junk food. bits here and there. first trying your big macs and french fries, then seeing the adds and tempting you for more, then the ease of the drive through the convenience of price and location…its just like your neighborhood crack dealer. and no, im not joking one bit.
gate way junk food. then comes the full bown fast food ADDICTION, thats right addiction. refute that if you want, you would be wrong. so sorry.[/QUOTE]
Or… more specifically, it starts with Happy Meals
i would say that those who think that freedom is a gateway to irresponsible behaviours need to check themselves and what it is they are advocating.
If a 3 year old is given cocaine and likes it and wants more, how do you feel about that? How about a 6 years old? what about a teen? an adult?
Is it really a choice after they have become addicted?
Do the advocates of freedom understand how conditioning works? Mental conditioning? Perhaps not as you seem to have been subjected to it yourselves! lol
Do you think it’s fair to parents to deluge their kids with advertising that is designed to have the kids behave in a desired pattern? Are you ok with that?
Are you ok with disappointing your child because you make a choice that is counter to the popular culture of the kid?
what do you want to change? the popular culture of the ignorant who all too willingly will make bad choices based upon how they think they are perceived?
or to let the child fall into the behavioural patterns as dictated by popular culture mechanisms such as advertising in an effort to sell the child something by proxy through you?
what is it that you aren’t getting here?
Does your constitution really say that it’s ok to manipulate the behaviours of children through mass media advertising and totally unhealthy practices in the name of making a corporation more money because they have to recycle a rapidly dying consumer base?
It’s ok to use cartoon characters to sell cigarettes because the constitution says so even though it is known that psychologically, this is appealing to children and steers their behaviours into peer culture of smoking?
the constitution doesn’t say anything about it and it’s not a constitutional issue. It’s about regulating what message corporations can or cannot send to the countries children without the parents permission.
still not getting it?
lemme put it simply.
If you think that you are completely and totally in control of all the decisions you make in your life, think again. your core belief system that is what causes you to make virtually all your judgment calls and moral decisions was NOT formed by you at all. It was formed by the major influences on you in your early childhood.
not understanding this aspect of humanity is p[probably why a few of you don’t understand the logic of the law that’s been put forth and throws you into a political tailspin over it because you cannot comprehend that you are not actually the one who is in control of your own life or mind at the root of it.
Your brainwashing is merely outweighing some other form of it. 
[QUOTE=Drake;1010223]Face it. You are seriously confusing the issue. I’ve stated it. It’s up to you to figure it out. McDonald’s ISN’T BEING BANNED. They are making POISON less appealing to kids. I can’t believe you are supporting McDonalds. It’s like you WANT them to continue making our country ill.[/QUOTE]
What part of “It’s not poison, its a legal, FDA-inspected product suitable for human consumption” are you not getting?
Tanning is unhealthy, do we ban that? Tattoos can get infected, do we ban them? Caffienated drinks and coffee are unhealthy, do we ban them? Alcohol is unhealthy, do we ban that?
[QUOTE=David Jamieson;1010468]If a 3 year old is given cocaine and likes it and wants more, how do you feel about that? How about a 6 years old? what about a teen? an adult?[/QUOTE]
Cocaine is an illegal substance. Hamburgers and chicken nuggets are not. Well, not yet…
[QUOTE=1bad65;1010696]Cocaine is an illegal substance. Hamburgers and chicken nuggets are not. Well, not yet…[/QUOTE]
I’m not talking about legality, I’m talking about healthy or not.
and fast food is about as healthy as cocaine consumption when it comes right down to it.
have you ever seen supersize me?
you wonder why mcdonalds can’t take that out of rotation?
I’ll tell you why, because it’s true. Every single word of it.
it forced change in that company when it showed.
It also forced change in other companies because it exposed them for the death merchants they are.
these are not normal burgers man. the processing includes ammonia bleaching for cripes sake. You do that with a steak at your house? me neither.
there’s plenty of things that are legal that are downright bad for you.
while rule of law is necessary, it is not a measure by which we can determine morality. morality is the first thing to get bypassed when it comes to law and how it relates to fast food companies, or other unethical companies such as oil companies that are too cheap to do their exploration properly, or gun companies that sell small arms to warlords, legally, or …well, I could go on, but I think the point is made.
if people are too thick to understand, then i don’t see how they are bright enough to make good choices.
do i think the average citizen is ignorant? You betcha. I myself, though quite educated don’t know a warehouse full of stuff about a great deal of topics.
[QUOTE=1bad65;1010695]What part of “It’s not poison, its a legal, FDA-inspected product suitable for human consumption” are you not getting?
Tanning is unhealthy, do we ban that? Tattoos can get infected, do we ban them? Caffienated drinks and coffee are unhealthy, do we ban them? Alcohol is unhealthy, do we ban that?[/QUOTE]
Is 75% of the population giving themselves skin cancer from tanning booths? 75% of us alcoholics?
What part of pandemic are you failing to get?
1bad, you are getting carried away and building strawmen …again.
No one is banning the crap food.
there is legislation on the table to ban the unscrupulous practice of luring children to poor diet choices by going after their entertainment desire.
That is the whole point of a happy meal isn’t it?
And judging by the pandemic of obesity in your nation, you think that your fellow countrymen are capable of making good choices about food for their kids?
I know that’s a bit harsh, but so what. I don’t have as much faith in people to act or do the right thing. What can I say, I hope for the best, but it didn’t work out and now there is a need for legal action in order to alter behaviours.
I think its awesome. Hell if it were up to me, civilians would be required to meet physical fitness standards and conduct PT regularly just like we do in the military. I’m tired of busting my ass trying to lift 300lbs lard asses into an ambulance. Or my firefighter friends having unnecessary extra risk placed on their own lives because they got an obese family that all need to be carried out unconscious from a burning home because they were too out of shape to make it 20 feet from their sofa to the front door…
[QUOTE=Drake;1010895]Is 75% of the population giving themselves skin cancer from tanning booths? 75% of us alcoholics?
What part of pandemic are you failing to get?[/QUOTE]
So why should we trust the government to ban toys from fast foods???
Seems like mixed messages here or not?
[QUOTE=kfson;1010982]So why should we trust the government to ban toys from fast foods???
Seems like mixed messages here or not?[/QUOTE]
Do you trust McDonalds to feed your kids properly?
I love McD’s french fries 
My little ones love their chicken nuggets, but I removes the skin off of them before they eat it.
They may have McD’s maybe 2-3 times a month.
I like their fajitas and their grilled chicken, sometimes I will even have their cheeseburger with only lettuce and tomato and then workout for 2 hours to burn it off !!
LMAO !!
[QUOTE=David Jamieson;1010990]Do you trust McDonalds to feed your kids properly?[/QUOTE]
Do I trust the government to tell me how to feed my kids properly?
[QUOTE=sanjuro_ronin;1010995]I love McD’s french fries
My little ones love their chicken nuggets, but I removes the skin off of them before they eat it.
They may have McD’s maybe 2-3 times a month.
I like their fajitas and their grilled chicken, sometimes I will even have their cheeseburger with only lettuce and tomato and then workout for 2 hours to burn it off !!
LMAO !![/QUOTE]
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Mmmmm, yummy !
[QUOTE=kfson;1010999]Do I trust the government to tell me how to feed my kids properly?[/QUOTE]
Your government isn’t telling you how to feed them. Not sure how you thought that.
In context to this thread it’s(government) telling a corporation to stop using advertising tactics which make it difficult for parents to make decisions on food choices for their kids.
[QUOTE=David Jamieson;1010990]Do you trust McDonalds to feed your kids properly?[/QUOTE]
It’s a friggin CHOICE to go up there and eat!!!
What part of personal responsibility is so hard to grasp???
And it’s not like it’s cheaper to eat at McDonalds vs eating at home. It’s a choice people should have the freedom to make. Why do you think people like you should have the right to tell others what they can and cant eat?
[QUOTE=1bad65;1011017]It’s a friggin CHOICE to go up there and eat!!!
What part of personal responsibility is so hard to grasp???[/QUOTE]
And what part of “children are too young to make that choice and can’t grasp personal responsibility so why direct advertising towards them” are you not getting? Parents can still choose to take their children to McDonalds. The kids just won’t get a toy.
[QUOTE=David Jamieson;1010903]1bad, you are getting carried away and building strawmen …again.
No one is banning the crap food.[/QUOTE]
Actually they are. See, you learn something every day when I’m around. 
“New York’s restaurants could be banned from adding salt to food as part of the city’s latest health crackdown. Politicians are voting on a bill that, if passed, would see restaurateurs fined $1,000 (£660) each time they were caught adding the condiment to food.”
Source:
http://article.wn.com/view/2010/03/12/New_York_restaurants_face_salt_ban_in_new_health_bill_causin/
“The Board of Health voted Tuesday to make New York the nation’s first city to ban artery-clogging artificial trans fats at restaurants — from the corner pizzeria to high-end bakeries.”
[QUOTE=Reality_Check;1011018]And what part of “children are too young to make that choice and can’t grasp personal responsibility so why direct advertising towards them” are you not getting? Parents can still choose to take their children to McDonalds. The kids just won’t get a toy.[/QUOTE]
So the children now decide where they eat? :rolleyes:
It’s the parents responsibility. People like you disgust me. Let me live my **** life how I want, and you live yours how you want. What’s wrong with that?