Fair enough “The One” isn’t gonna win an Oscar - but the movie on a whole was pretty good. The initial fight/sfx scene was great. A nice new slant on an old theme. And “KOTD” was okay too. Jet did some fine work but Ms. Fonda has a lot explaining to do. Her part was painful!!
When is Hero due? And C2TG?
Anyone???
[Just doing my bit to keep the thread alive - you know you love it KC]
As i haven’t seen much Xing Yi or Bagua, i’ll have to take your work on it HKV But i do know that his Taijiquan in Tai Chi Master was VERY different form the way i have seen my Sifu and others perform their Chen… still a good movie though
At least he is popularising gong fu and MA in general, whether he is the best exponent of that particular method or not…
Taoboy: I don’t think theres any news on those movies! lol They seem to have fallen in to a void! Silumkid usually has the scoop, but heard nothing form him lately
KOTD sucked a lot imo… the plot, acting and fighting… it was mediocre at best imo anyway.
I’ll have to get around to watching “Tai Chi Master”.
You mentioned Chen style, dezhen2001. Because of that, I basically will be looking for that internal power whole-body striking method that characterizes your style.
Even if his external postures are stylized for the movies, I still want to see the recoiling spiraling jing that has made Chen Style so reknowned as a fighting style. My feeling is that if Jet Li indeed were using Chen Style in this movie, he’d not have the sunken down internal power projection that guys like Chen Xiaowang clearly demonstrate. He didn’t have it in “The One” in EITHER style, cool as he looked.
Of course, I want to see if the “Tai Chi” in “Tai Chi Master” even really is Taijiquan. When the English translation of Jet Li stated that “I’m now a Tai Chi Master”, I smiled when he demonstrated his point by flashing his Pigua palms. But maybe it’s “Tai Chi” as in “Grand Ultimate” as opposed to Taijiquan the specific fighting art.
I also once saw a showreel of another Chinese MA movie guy called Chiu Man Cheuk (Zhao Wen Zao i think in Mandarin?). He did a demo in a shopping mall, and also did some Chen. They both seem to have a similar style, so maybe it’s a compulsory Wushu Taijiquan format? I remember watching the movie at my Sifu’s place and afterwards watching a video with Chen Tai Sigung in it (Chen Xiao Wang)… the difference is VERY noticeable! But still, the movie looks good and has some good action in it… whether it’s Taijiquan or Pigua etc.
It could mean Taiji as in ‘grand ultimate’, but he is meant to be Zhan San Feng, the creator of Taiji QUAN, so who knows? btw. the english dubbed version of that movie really sucks!
There’s a good reason why Chiu Man Cheuk and Jet’s styles look so similar…any guesses?
Yes, it’s true! Chiu Man Cheuk was Jet’s stuntman for quite some time as well as being his nemesis in Fong Sai-Yuk.
As far as C2TG and Hero…still no release dates that I can find yet. Considering C2TG, they started production in March so you may not expect it to be out until next year perhaps, or at least late this year I’m sure.
Silumkid: 'sup kid, haven’t seen u around this hood for a while
I already knew those CMC facts Also they both trained in PRC Wushu, and did forms etc. so that’s why the Taijiquan is different from Chenjiagou (Chen Village) Taijiquan…
Man i wanna see hero… i have to make do with Tom Cruise in Minority Report I’d much rather see Jet or Jackie in something! :mad:
Well all…I have finally received some information about “Hero” release date although it isn’t specific. I have been informed that they are shooting for a release “possibly” late this year! C2TG will likely be next year…this is all I have so far.
Tae Li…don’t cry. I am here to revive your thread anytime it is in danger of falling by the wayside. The Church of the Jet Li Cult Kung-Fu Hero Movies must go onward!
dez…sorry to say it, but don’t waste your time with Invincible. It came out here in the States several months ago and I was disappointed to say the least. As far as I know, Mel and Jet were merely “executive producers”…basically financiers. The martial art sequences were terrible, the story was poorly written and didn’t flow very well at all, and the acting was done in a way I can only describe as “sleepwalk reading”. Even Billy Zane seemed like he didn’t want to be there, and I think he’s an excellent actor. Even the special effects were cheesy. I have a conspiracy theory about Invincible (to be called hereafter Unintelligible)…I think somebody must have talked Mel and Jet into putting a little money into the project because that was the only legitimacy they could put on the thing.
These are the only bad words you wil ever see me write in regards to the Jet and I hope you note this day on your calendar. YES! I detracted from the legion for a moment. It had to be done. We must keep our man Jet on the right path after all.
Invincible wasn’t a movie, it was a TV pilot, which, by definition, means "schlock released in the hopes someone will pick it up and allow it to become something a little better.
I defy you to name one pilot for television that wasn’t schlock. Television’s weird, the actors are usually substandard, the script always is, and the time allowed for shooting is not much, so, unlike a movie, in tv, everything is done on a very short schedule with more compromises and no good script.
wow KC that taijiquan must be getting to ya… for ONCE On this thread i agree with what u say
Does anyone remember the tv series of the Crow with a younger Mark Dacascos - schlock compared to even the 2nd crow movie. Highlander the series - movies were all better (even 2 and 3). Adrian Paul was pretty cool though (anyone seen ‘the Owl’ with him in it?)
can’t think of anything else right now…
Oh yeh - JET LI, have to at least mention him or i’ll get my ass kicked Lets hope he learns more about production pretty soon. Jackies group did way better with Gen-X cops (imo only of course)
FJ: hopefully we can better the 10 000, i’d like to see what happens 2
I also thought that the aussie and the asian guy on the invincibles were decent martial artists, especially for television.
And that lady with the ribbon dancing needed to be shot multiple times, twice in each shin, once just grazing the floating rib, etc. Watching that made me cry.