[QUOTE=Lucas;1083047]if you can try out a school that teaches longfist. 
I personally think longfist provides a good base to transition to any other kungfu style. really you can say the same about tons of styles too so maybe im bias.[/QUOTE]
You are not bias. The longfist system is the āmotherā of all CMA styles. With the Longfist 8 basic stances as your foundation, there is no style that you cannot cross train afterward.
[QUOTE=Syn7;1083029]better than turning 70 and realizing ya done fukced up when you chose wing chun[/QUOTE]
if it takes someone 70 years to realize wing chun is bullsh1t then he is retard. instead of martial arts maybe he shouldve chose finger painting.
[QUOTE=Syn7;1083029]better than turning 70 and realizing ya done fukced up when you chose wing chunā¦ it may take time but unless you find a great one early, well worth the time, dont you think??? besides, just cause you branch out doesnt mean you have to train any less in the arts you already doā¦[/QUOTE]
Itās an easy fix.
Keep the kicks and switch to boxing. 
yeah long fist does seem like a good base system for a lot of kung fu styles, especially if u actually get to learn it traditionally.
[QUOTE=shaolin_allan;1082975]Iāve been doing wing chun off and on for six months now but I find myself wanting to do other styles also. If I start now learning from another sifu do you guys think iād be fine? Whats the minimum amount of time u should do a base system before u cross train? especially one that can be learned faster like wing chun?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=ginosifu;1083018]spend at least 3 or 4 years in one art form before mixing. Get the basics down for a couple of years and then re - evealuate the WC and see where you can go from there.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=bawang;1083021]thats about 3 or 4 thousand dollars and the prime of your life gone evaluating[/QUOTE]
Let me explain that a bit better.
I spent from about 1986 - 1992 hoping from teacher to teacher. Spending 3 or 4 months here and a month or 2 there. I tried everything from Silat to Shotokan. I spent 2 Years at a Tae Kwon Do school until I found Northern Shaolin.
I spent about 2 or 3 years in Northern Shaolin before I started Hung Gar and then another 2 or 3 before I started Monkey. I was doing Shuai Chaio and Tai Chi Along With Shaolin. I was Kinda Luckyā¦ SC was just part of the curriculum in the Northern Shaolin Class. Tai Chi was taught by a Sifu who was just renting out the space at the time in the same facility.
Spend time seeking out the right teacher for you then spend 3 or 4 years into an art form before you start hoping around frrom srtyle to style.
ginosifu
that makes a lot more sense gino.
when studying two arts, you need to look at them like two gears; beginners see only how they clash, while later, you see how they fit in with each other.
It helps to study two arts that compliment each other. Hung-Ga and Kali,Wing Chun or SPM, also Yang style Tai-Chi. Throwing art goes well with everything.
[QUOTE=TenTigers;1083128]when studying two arts, you need to look at them like two gears; beginners see only how they clash, while later, you see how they fit in with each other.
It helps to study two arts that compliment each other. Hung-Ga and Kali,Wing Chun or SPM, also Yang style Tai-Chi. Throwing art goes well with everything.[/QUOTE]
Yeah good point tentigers. I think Yang would compliment hung ga really well or any of the wudang arts.
[QUOTE=Syn7;1083029]better than turning 70 and realizing ya done fukced up when you chose wing chunā¦ it may take time but unless you find a great one early, well worth the time, dont you think??? besides, just cause you branch out doesnt mean you have to train any less in the arts you already doā¦[/QUOTE] If you get to turn seventy, youāve already succeeded:D.
I think you have to be careful that the technique matches the body mechanics.
EO
[QUOTE=ginosifu;1082490]Over the years I have learn 5 different kung fu styles. I do not consider myself a master of anything but I teach them. Also I have done seminars and spent time with many other Sifu but did not learn a specific system form them.
Each system has itās own uniqueness, each has itās own methods and theory. I learned from different teachers and each teacher had their own thought on fighting / application / theory and form flavor etc etc.
In the endā¦ I have been affected by all of them. Every style I teach has been affected by all of them. While teaching Hung Garā¦ it is still Hung Gar but because of the blend of teachers it has tiny nuances from each of my styles. Each of the systems I teach has been affected by my greed early in my Kung Fu career.
My question is:
Is it wrong that my styles are a little affected by the flavor of the others?
Will each system end up not being taught correctly because it has been spiced up by my other teachers influence?
your thoughts
ginosifu[/QUOTE]
So, hereās an idea:
What is there to contaminate? How you do each style will obviously change, but how you teach each style, and the original templates wonāt be affected if you understand your curriculum.
That being said, if one of your styles has an idea or template that doesnāt make sense and you want to change it, work with your teachers and kung fu brothers/sisters to find out if it doesnāt make sense because you didnāt get it, or if it just doesnāt work, in which case, who cares if you ācontaminateā it?
Peer review is essential in any field of study. No style has 100% perfect ideas, thereās no such thing as an infallible style, and every style can use refinement somewhere.
But if your goal is to teach the original curriculum, it shouldnāt be affected at all by other styles. You should understand each template and the concepts it demonstrates, as well as the concepts it does not demonstrate (but maybe should).
I donāt have any problem separating each style in my mind, and for things I do, I have everything in my notes anyways.
ā¦ of course, this is where a good general education can come in handyā¦
It should be taken note that when we ourselves are being taught āstand-aloneā systems by our teachers and that particular curriculum, we should remember such methods for the most part.
Thereās no reason for your WCK curriculum to become ātaintedā by another system you do. How you personally fight using your martial arts knowledge is another thing, but teaching is quite different.
Without a proper curriculum, there is nothing to teach.
My Shuai Jiao is always screwing up my salsa dancing.
[QUOTE=KC Elbows;1083431]My Shuai Jiao is always screwing up my salsa dancing.[/QUOTE]
get I trouble for dumping your dance teacher partner on her head again?
[QUOTE=ginosifu;1083112]Let me explain that a bit better.
I spent from about 1986 - 1992 hoping from teacher to teacher. Spending 3 or 4 months here and a month or 2 there. I tried everything from Silat to Shotokan. I spent 2 Years at a Tae Kwon Do school until I found Northern Shaolin.
I spent about 2 or 3 years in Northern Shaolin before I started Hung Gar and then another 2 or 3 before I started Monkey. I was doing Shuai Chaio and Tai Chi Along With Shaolin. I was Kinda Luckyā¦ SC was just part of the curriculum in the Northern Shaolin Class. Tai Chi was taught by a Sifu who was just renting out the space at the time in the same facility.
Spend time seeking out the right teacher for you then spend 3 or 4 years into an art form before you start hoping around frrom srtyle to style.
ginosifu[/QUOTE]
if martial arts are taught more openly and less secretive you could have found your ideal style in a matter of months.
these days martial arts are too expensive, and msot people too busy to be able to do what you did.
[QUOTE=bawang;1083486]if martial arts are taught more openly and less secretive you could have found your ideal style in a matter of months.
these days martial arts are too expensive, and msot people too busy to be able to do what you did.[/QUOTE]
?? how much does it cost to train where you live
[QUOTE=KC Elbows;1083431]My Shuai Jiao is always screwing up my salsa dancing.[/QUOTE]
Just stay away from lindy hop and your partner may get through this without a broken neckā¦
[QUOTE=jesper;1083520]?? how much does it cost to train where you live[/QUOTE]
Not sure about bawangās location, but here itās about $100/month now on average.
For Kung Fu, I think the effects are minimal except for small nuances.
horse stance is horse stance. It is either high or low.
bow and arrow are same across all styles, high or low being the thing again.
60/40 step is same same
50/50 is same same
cat stance or empty/false leg stance are same again with the high or low.
punching is either flat fist, vertical fist, upper cut
over hand flat fist is called charp or simply, an overhand in boxing. lol
kicking is flicked, swung off the hip, pivotted, pushed, cut.
There is in my opinion no bad things except those things that are contrary to common sense.
In my mind, most of everything that is out there is rooted in shaolin, even the wudang and other taoist stuff and for the most part the so called āinternal martial artsā have all these things as well.
[QUOTE=jesper;1083520]?? how much does it cost to train where you live[/QUOTE]
100 dollar a month