Kung Fu and Muay Boran

[QUOTE=Lucas;1187488]well it could be that the version of the map i stole from the vault located in the vatican is outdated…[/QUOTE]

That explains it.
makes note to call Pope and ask for password to vault to be changed from “waffles” to something else

*types in “somethingelse”

I’m in…holy crap, look at all this stuff!!!

Turns out the Comte St. Germain really is a real dude!

makes note to fire swiss guard

[QUOTE=Kellen Bassette;1187362]natb19…

Do you currently live in Thailand? My wife is from Nahkon Sawan Province and I would love to find someone who teaches the old muay styles when I’m staying in Thailand. There’s no shortage of people teaching modern Muay Thai; and I certainly look forward to training with them, but it seems very difficult to find any instructors of ancient boxing.

From what I gather as a clueless farang, the Thais seem to have a very high opinion of their traditional arts; I may be off base, but I don’t think there’s really any contempt for tradition among the Thai fighters, as there seems to be to often in the western MMA community…

With Muay Boran becoming more known to the west, mostly thanks to Tony Jaa, there’s no doubt we’ll see more and more schools capitalizing on the name and teaching crap, watered down Muay Thai, passing it off as Muay Boran…but I guess there’s already enough fake MT here in the U.S. at thousands of MMA schools and Dojos claiming to teach it for their kick boxing program, because it’s popular at the moment…[/QUOTE]

Yes, unfortunately the bandwagon is already rolling and many are jumping on. Funnily there is a large lack of respect of the old styles in modern muay thai circles because of the lack of use of it in the ring. Unfortunately, a lot of this has good founding because most places who teach it only teach fancy moves [see Tony Jaa] that are all but useless in real [or even ring] situations. Also there are a wealth of self proclaimed masters who learnt [or due to a long period time of not training/teaching] a little and make up the rest. The government seem to want to gain some control of this, but really don’t have a cue either. Remember - if some one teaches muay boran, there should be a name to the style and a lineage - just like chinese ma. Be careful of people who teach muay boran.

I help teach at my teacher’s school, Baan Chang Thai in Bangkok, where he has been teaching Muay Chaiya for over 15 years now. A good, solid martial art which differs from anything I’ve seen before - the body movement is pretty unique - and is really practical. He tries to stick to what he learnt and has resisted the many offer to sell out over the years. He refuses to teach the fancy movements as they are not practical and are for show.

The fact that currently the only dedicated in-house assistant teachers are westerners goes to show how much interest the Thais have in maintaining their own arts.

Kellen, please come and train if you’re interested, check out my site www.learnmuaythaichaiya.com for more information :slight_smile:

[QUOTE=natb19;1187539]Yes, unfortunately the bandwagon is already rolling and many are jumping on. Funnily there is a large lack of respect of the old styles in modern muay thai circles because of the lack of use of it in the ring. Unfortunately, a lot of this has good founding because most places who teach it only teach fancy moves [see Tony Jaa] that are all but useless in real [or even ring] situations. Also there are a wealth of self proclaimed masters who learnt [or due to a long period time of not training/teaching] a little and make up the rest. The government seem to want to gain some control of this, but really don’t have a cue either. Remember - if some one teaches muay boran, there should be a name to the style and a lineage - just like chinese ma. Be careful of people who teach muay boran.

I help teach at my teacher’s school, Baan Chang Thai in Bangkok, where he has been teaching Muay Chaiya for over 15 years now. A good, solid martial art which differs from anything I’ve seen before - the body movement is pretty unique - and is really practical. He tries to stick to what he learnt and has resisted the many offer to sell out over the years. He refuses to teach the fancy movements as they are not practical and are for show.

The fact that currently the only dedicated in-house assistant teachers are westerners goes to show how much interest the Thais have in maintaining their own arts.

Kellen, please come and train if you’re interested, check out my site www.learnmuaythaichaiya.com for more information :)[/QUOTE]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5wJeR2mO1E!

Good stuff, I like it.

I’d love to visit your school natb19, I hope to be in Thailand this winter, who knows it may work out…unfortunately I can’t spend much time in Bangkok, I’ll be up north, but I’d love to come learn something or at least see the training…

[QUOTE=natb19;1187539]Yes, unfortunately the bandwagon is already rolling and many are jumping on. Funnily there is a large lack of respect of the old styles in modern muay thai circles because of the lack of use of it in the ring. Unfortunately, a lot of this has good founding because most places who teach it only teach fancy moves [see Tony Jaa] that are all but useless in real [or even ring] situations. Also there are a wealth of self proclaimed masters who learnt [or due to a long period time of not training/teaching] a little and make up the rest. The government seem to want to gain some control of this, but really don’t have a cue either. Remember - if some one teaches muay boran, there should be a name to the style and a lineage - just like chinese ma. Be careful of people who teach muay boran.

I help teach at my teacher’s school, Baan Chang Thai in Bangkok, where he has been teaching Muay Chaiya for over 15 years now. A good, solid martial art which differs from anything I’ve seen before - the body movement is pretty unique - and is really practical. He tries to stick to what he learnt and has resisted the many offer to sell out over the years. He refuses to teach the fancy movements as they are not practical and are for show.

The fact that currently the only dedicated in-house assistant teachers are westerners goes to show how much interest the Thais have in maintaining their own arts.

Kellen, please come and train if you’re interested, check out my site www.learnmuaythaichaiya.com for more information :)[/QUOTE]

Do you have more links like the one Wensha put up that show the old art?

Yeh, Robert Clyne did a nice job on that video. Nice guy to, we had lots of fun in filming :slight_smile:

You can check out more on my youtube channel or on my master’s schools channel.

I’ve got a few vids on my channel explaining some of the basics - walk, defense and kicks if you want to get a feel for the style. Like many martial arts there’s a lot in the basics and the fundamental movements are critical to the style… The basics of the style revolve around blocking with the elbows and knees to damage the oponnent when he attacks, and utilising the weight of the body in most movements (attack and defence) instead of working on brute force. So the movements end up looking pretty unimpressive, but hold a lot of weight behind them!

There’s a few vids of our top guy Tae (pronounced Day) sparring - he’s really something else. Great speed, control, and one of the few people who can pull off a lot of the more advanced moves in realtime - which I think is something that a lot of martial artists fool themselves about… it’s great to have some one at a higher level to play with (I don’t want to be on top! lol) because it means that you’ve got a higher level to reach. (he’s a great guy to, very nice and humble)