Chen, when I said BDP I meant Boogie Down Productions. Remember them?
Criminal minded, you been blinded
lookin for a style like mine and can’t find it…
the only real commercial artists from the west coast are snoop and dre (and to a certain degree xzibit). else the leftcoast is 100% underground, and stuff is just crazy around there. wether they be from a neighborhood in South central LA, SF, Oakland, San Diego, u can find the truest emcees & producers in hip hop there.
the eastcoast doesnt really interest me because they are too commercial. jay-z, dmx, 50, ja and others dominate the east too much.
eastcoast rap for me is people like Rakim, krs-one, talib kweli, the wu clan, mobb deep, Biggie (RIP), kool g rap, redman & crew, etc.. that is true hip-hop in its core essence right there.
south: scarface, devin the dude, a couple others are good..
else its HORRIBLE
The Dirty gets more credit than that. They may be platinum plus, but Outkast is still a great rap band, plus Cee-Lo is an innovator, and for a commercial mc, I really like Ludacris. Did you hear his verse on the “Made U Look” remix? It ends with one of my favorite punchlines of all time:
“I’m a victim of society, it’s Chris the menace
With more sh!t out on the streets than evicted tenants!”
the bay area hip hop scene is like the mecca of underground hip hop right now. So many clubs, so many ill locals, its paradise for heads. Thats where I’m headed after music school. Actually, I was thinking of moving to japan after school, its easy to make it there.
My Hip Hop List
the dopest / undertarated Hip Hop Artist ever.
Well Just a few We could be here all day… Some of my Favs.
- Life Savers
- Jay Live
- Aceyalone
- M.O.P (Got to have some gangsta in ya life)
- Organize Konfusion (as a group)
- Shabazz 3 (local cats out of dallas)
- Strange Fruit (local cats out of Waco)
- Krupt (dogg pound)
- Young Bleed (believe it or not used to be on No Limit. I know me shocked as well)
Say you guys from Austin do any of you know when the record convention is coming back?
Shen Zhou
I forgot One of my all time List Members
This Dude is SICK to DEATH… got Pictures with him if anyone wants to see… This dude written, freestyle, and battle rhymes make you love Hip Hop again.
Sage Francis
“I breed hard rocks to impregnate stones to grow pebbles
I throw kettles at pan-handlers n pot-smokers
sell insest to sexually repressed stockbrokers”
Since I am a DJ have to give love to
Dj Abilities
Dj Remode
Dj Sober
SO many to name… I love hip hop
Not sure about the record convention. I think it’s a twice yearly thing, but the most recent time wasn’t that long ago. November maybe.
since this is a hip hop related thread…why not do a shameless plug. Check out my shit with my boy james (a.k.a. Empathy). We got some chilled sh!t, some political sh!t, and even some “I-hate-my-father” sh!t. Plus, you get to hear all the beats by yours truely.
Lemme know what ya’ll think…
Ras Kass:
“You ain’t got enough calcium to have a bone to pick wit’ me
Like a gracie I choke a nigga out wit’ his own gi
on me, f*ck they whole batallion
I’ll chop ya head off and wear ya skull like sophmore medallions, papi
I’m the one wit da million dolla’ smile and three dollars to my name
puttin black eyes in the game like mascara
Diabetic MC’s must think sh1t is sweet
these venomous techniques, I leave heat
A nigga gots to have it in these streets
Bubble eyed G-S on they teams wit beats
Screamin, “I’ll make ya famous,”
Write my rhymes in alien and battle niggas in sign language
Cowards make a little cheese then enlarge
artificially, like Pamela Anderson Lee’s double D’s, please
I’m bangin from Belize to Tel Aviv on the Red Sea
Racin’ Saddam Hussein on Kawasaki jet ski’s”
he is one of my fav emcees at the moment:)
Rass Kass is Dope
Soul On Ice is a Classic and his last unreleased joint is hot as well. I like his MC’ing better when he is doing his on thing rather then when he’s on the commerical tip with DRE. Not a good mix. That H2O joint was garbage… But Ras Kass is on my list of top MC’s.. Nature of the Threat is. Tight to Def.
“Let freedom ring with a buckshot but not just yet
We need to truly understand the nature of the threat
And a pale man walks in the threshold of darkness
Roughly 20 000 years ago the first humans evolved with
The phenotypical trait genetic recessive blue eyes blonde hair and white skin
Albinism apparently was a sin to the original man Africans
So the mutants traveled north of the equator
Called Europeans later, the first race haters
So here’s the devils’ alpha to the beta
Cuz history’s best qualified to teach one
Quoting German philosopher Schopenhauer
“Every white man is a faded or bleached one”
Migration created further mutation
Genetic drifts, evolution through recombination
Adaptation to the climate
As the Caucus Mountain man reverted to that of a primate
Savage Neanderthals until the late Paleolithic age
That’s when the Black Grimaldi man came
With the symbol of the dragon
Fire and art
Check cave paintings in France and Spain to the Venus of Willendorf”
I like Ras a lot, but his science on “Nature of the Threat” is kinda - okay, majorly - faulty. He ain’t wrong to blame a post-enlightenment superiority complex for the path that leads to medern day racism, but light skin is unrelated to albinism, neanderthals were contemporaries with early **** sapiens, not a ‘devolution’ from them (there’s no such thing as devolution), and human figures in cave paintings are dark because pigments are dark. They’re also super-simplified to an almost iconic degree. Portrayals of animals from the same time are highly detailed and almost naturalistic, but the people are just silhouettes. That indicates that the animals are important to the artist, but the humans are not. It doesn’t indicate anything about skintone. And the Venus of Willendorf is a caricature of fertility traits - huge hips and t!ts with negligible arms and a head covered with a basket. Seeing that it was found in Germany rather than Africa, I don’t see how that implies that art and culture came from africa into Europe.
No one seriously disputes that humanity’s origins were in africa, but likewise no one seriously disputes that writing and agriculture arose first in the Fertile Cresscent and later independently in several other places. Similarly, no-one seriously disputes that technological society arose in Western Europe. Different human milestones have happened in different places. All I have to say to that is so what?
Agreed with CSN
Rass Kass song Nature of the Threat is nothing but propaganda. No all True but not all False like good propaganda should be.
In all regards its just a song he felt he had to make for the mental health of his people (African Americans). But like you said what does it matter in the greater sceme of things. Dope MC does not make him a Dope Cultrual or Biological Anthropologist. I have been working on my Masters in Cultural Anthropology for 2 years next step PhD and I have learned more about humans then sometimes I wanted to know, but it all boils down to no one wants to now the truth we all want propaganda. It makes up sleep alot better at night.
Shen Zhou
Who gives a fuck if it’s westcoast or eastcoast shit? Good music has notting to do with were you live…
I’m pissed coz Atmosphere is in town in a week or so n I probebly wont make it :mad: motherfuckers
Oh, I don’t care. But I think it’s cool that hiphop still has some regional styles and it doesn’t all sound the same. Think about it like this: you can rarely tell where a rock group is from by their sound anymore. I think that’s kinda lame. I like John Lennon’s Liverpool accent, Greg Allman’s Alabama drawl, etc..
Does anyone listen to Hip Hop in a different language? I listen to Japanese Hip Hop (Tha Blue Herb), French Hip Hop (TTC), and even some indian hip hop.
I have tons of french artists I listen too. Saïan Supa Crew is one of the best out there. Muzion is cool too. Theres the koreans: Drunken Tiger
n many more
Rap and hip hop are dead, the funk is coming back.
The best foreign language hiphop I’ve heard has been MC Solaar and IAM de Marseille. Oh, and Control Machete.
Rogue - I truly do hope the funk comes back (FEEEEEEESHBONE!), but I seriously doubt that hiphop and rap are dying.
It’s more likely rock will die.. that genre is full of no gooders
There’s good rock(-ish) records being made. The Liars, Hella and Xinlisupreme all come to mind.