i see alot of hip hop post here so i’ll post this here,
what do you guys think of kanye west i think he’s garbage maybe i’m(even though you gotta give a guy credit for rapping with his jaw wired shut)wrong?
I don’t really give him credit…if anything he should of waited to get the wires off. I seems a bit gimmiky.
riding the 50cent wave…
i heard his joint with jay-z and some spoken word cat named j-ivy i think. it was hmm not crap but not good.
the spoken word part was the best, but there is better songs for that out there.
my personal favorite is still:
fisticuffs “turn my headphones up” 
Im not feeling any of that ****. **** kanye, hes hyping himself up to being something hes not.
I liked his cd. It was somthing different. He talks about college and working at the gap. It was refreshing to me. I’m not really sure how he is riding the 50cent wave, explain that one:rolleyes:
The mouth wired shut thing isn’t that big of a deal. The person I give credit for rapping with his mouth wired shut is DMX. He got his deal a def jam by rapping with his mouth wired shut. The white guy from def jam(forgot his name) said everyone parted when X came in and he started rapping so wild that he could hear the wires poping off and breaking. Beautiful.
"fisticuffs “turn my headphones up”
I’m riiiich beyotch
so!
We all agree kanye is ****, and his ryhmes suck! okay just checking didn’t wanna be the only one.
Not sure how he’s ‘ridin the fifty wave’ either. I’m not a fan of him but his latest album is alrite. West isn’t about any gangsta ****, he raps about real life issues like the school system etc. I’ve also heard hes tryin to bring more funk and jazz into the hip hop scene, wich I personally feel is refreshing.
I am personally a fan of harder stuff. DMX is my favorite but Kanye Brings that Chi town flavor and offeres an alternative of me when I’m done screaming and barking. Kanye isn’t at the top of my list but he’s decent
I don’t like the whole “I dropped out of college” bullsh!t. If he wanted to be something else he shoulda said “I got a Doctors in Neurophysics…with a GED” then I’d give him credit. I can’t give credit where credit isn’t due. Hes just another lackluster emcee thrust into the spot light by some made emcee who wants to make some dough offa his record sales. MTV is notorious for forcing music on people…he’s one of the tools. Here’s what I got to say about that.
You want to play my video? Fuck you, you don’t get one.
You want an interview? Fuck you, you don’t deserve one.
You want to give me a recording deal? Fuck you, I already got one. A deal where I don’t have to sale my soul just to make a dollar. One where I can express myself regardless of the reprocussions. One where I’m not forced to pose in designer clothing because my record co. says it will boost sales. I don’t need sales. I don’t make my music for you. I make it for people who are tired of hearing, seeing, eating, being told the same sh!t day in and day out. We choose to shine a differnet color of light. Not the one our agent says looks best, but the one that reflect our true selves and intentions.
nicely put
I guess if I was an emcee I’d b pretty p1ssed at him too. But now I just don’t gice a fuck
I think he’s pretty f*in’ dope. Of course, if you like garbage like DMX, that just shows there’s no accounting for taste.
My favorite rap albums for 2003:
Lyrics Born, Later That Day…
Little Brother, The Listening
AceyAlone, Love and Hate
King Geedorah, Take Me To Your Leader
Outkast, Speakerboxxxx/The Love Below
Viktor Vaughn, Vaudeville Villain
Lifesavas, Spirit In Stone
Ugly Duckling, Taste the Secret
no special order
The new Gift of Gab looks pretty dope, too.
You’ll notice a particular lack of gangsta posturing bullsh!t on this list. That’s because that nonsense is boring and played out.
On another note, I downloaded “The Grey Album” and it’s pretty hot as well.
Y’all ever listen to Cage?
Weak
He’s wack like 99% of the shallow Thug Doug pop rap we are inundated with. The powers that be want to take a very minor element of the Hip Hop culture (B.S. rap), dopplegang it, suck its essence dry and move on to the next morsel!
People say he’s like 50 non-Cents ‘cuz he used that clenched jawed, slurred technique in his debut single. What happened to his steelo when those friggin’ wires came off? He is sub-mediocre at best. He gots zero skills and he sounds like an idiot. Hey, I guess most folks are dumb like your parents told you your whole life. Dummies empathize with dummies.
Listen to Dilated Peoples, Pharoah Monch and older sh it like Freestyle Fellowship, Acey-Alone on “All Balls Don’t Bounce” and “The Book of Human Language”, to get a sense of what real rap should/could be.
F uck that Simple Simon vocab’ cats with some skill like M-n-M use. That’s for dolts and little kids. Peep some Rakim all the way up to the “Let the Rhythm Hit 'Em” era. Check out the D.O.C.s seminal album and listen to the production on the “Chronic” to hear what everyone wishes they could do nowadays. The “Chronic” was the joint, but it really fu c ked shi t up as far as the diversity of Hip Hop musc was concerned. Now every imbecilic street rat, Tupac wanna-be can become famous with lots of production, hardwork, over-confidence and very little skill.
Hip Hop was about “showin’ and provin”, not connects and payola mafia music. Hardwork, intimidation and dik sukin’ were not suppose to be measures of worth in the culture. Skills and content were the aims. Not $$$$. Diligence would only get you so far. You have all these substandard “rappers” like Jah Rule and $.50, beefin’ one another. What for? They are BOTH WAAAAACK!
Biggie, Tupac and Snoop ain’t got shi t on the real cats. Rap will go the way of New Wave if some Rakim like dude, or P.E. like group doesn’t get popular soon. There is too many important things to talk about. Sorry you were poor and now you gots ducats and stupid females droolin’ over your ugly as s! WTF!!! Talk about how you were ethnically stratified and how it’s a population control scheme- god****** somein’ with some substance sometimes. And not that Black Eyed Peas Boosh-it either! Use that fukin’ platform right, you high voiced beyotches!
I always wished that Hip Hop, the culture, all its elements, would blow up, but not just one element- rap- not like this. Hip Hop and rap was the antithesis of this gangsta’ bling-bling crap that is saturating the weak minds out there. How did the powers that be, flip the script on Hip Hop like that? The answer is the soldiers will get the last laugh!!
Oh and Missey Elliot is booty! She suks, literally and figuratively!
Have a wonderful sell-out week!
Damn, CSN. You got pretty good taste in Hip Hop.
I think if you want production, you listen to Aesop Rock’s “Float” Album. Blockhead is a sick motherfucker. You also gotta check out anything that has Madlib’s name on it. Indulge in some Kool Kieth thats produced by Dan the Automator. Fuck that Dr.Dre sh!t. He’s small time compared to the quality of a Numark and Cut Chemist beat. Expand your horizons, Listen to Tha Blue Herb (a Japanese Hip Hop Group) and you’ll find the beauty of a DJ Krush Beat. Go to france, listen to DJ Cam’s jazzy interpretation of Hip Hop. Gza is nice, but ain’t close to the quality of a RJD2 beat.
Well, keep in mind I think Timbaland is dope as hell, too, and love Missy dearly. I like Ace Rock quite a bit, although I don’t think what i’ve heard of Block’s production is quite up to the rest of the standards of the rest of the Def Jukies - but considering that includes El-P and RJ, it’s still nothing to call wack. I like Ludacris a lot as well, although I haven’t had to take him in large doses yet.
Thing is, all I care about is creativity and quality. Whether its classified as mainstream or underground means nothing to me.
Seriously, download the Grey Album - it’s JayZ’s black album vocals over a stitched up version of the Beatles’ The White Album by this british cat named DJ Danger Mouse. Jay’s getting off the materialism a little bit - I think that after his ‘retirement’ he’s going to begin a new career with a different handle, maybe his real name - and talks a little bit about how much he admires Talib Kweli and Common. Aw, yeah!
I’m also really looking forward to Ceelo’s new joint. That fat s.o.b. always brings it!
There’s an unreleased solo album by Vast Aire called “Scissor Tongue” available on Soulseek. I’m downloading it now.
…Vast Aire is the sh!t. Hey, CSN are you gonna check out RJD2 on 4-4-04? How about Dj Shadow on 4-22-04? I’ll be at both for goddam sure.
If I can afford it. There’s a lot of good shows coming, and I don’t have much $$$ or time. Here’s some I’m really excited about:
Tue. 03/23 l
The Pharcyde, Aceyalone at Emo’s
Sun. 04/04
Def Jux tour with Murs, The Perceptionists (Mr. Lif, Akrobatik, Fakts One), C-Ray Walz, Hangar 18 at Emo’s - Is this the one you meant?
Fri. 04/09
Epistrophy Arts presents The Thing with Joe McPhee (Mats Gustafsson, Ingerbrigt Haker-Flaten, Paal Nilssen-Love) at the Auditorium on Waller Creek (4100 Red River)
Thu. 04/08
Epistrophy Arts presents Peter Brotzmann Chicago Tentet at The Parish
Taken from http://www.showlistaustin.com/
And of course Southby is gonna be a fu(kin’ zoo.
Originally posted by Chang Style Novice
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Fri. 04/09
Epistrophy Arts presents The Thing with Joe McPhee (Mats Gustafsson, Ingerbrigt Haker-Flaten, Paal Nilssen-Love) at the Auditorium on Waller Creek (4100 Red River)
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nordic rappers? 