What is “said” is not solely the problem. What I’ve seen is that thoughtful posts and thoughtful discussions end up falling off track into personal attacks/exchanges. It’s difficult to keep a sincere/serious thread question on track - on track so it can be discussed to its conclusion - before being hijacked.
lkfmdc
I have yet to see sanjuro_ronin post porn. His pics are risque for sure, but they are not pornographic. You know the difference, right?
You PMed and emailed me about Hardwork just prior to launching your hardwork thread. That counts as two within the last month. Now I’m sure there’s been more than two more. In that same time, I received only one legal action, which was attended to promptly. I also received two indirect complaints via our moderators, who were just sharing what was going on. Both of those situations seem to be contained.
But more to the point, we (the members of the forum here) are a pretty passive lot when it comes to complaints. When encountering trollish confrontations, most people just click on their ignore function or leave for a spell.
[QUOTE=GeneChing;910186]
I have yet to see sanjuro_ronin post porn. His pics are risque for sure, but they are not pornographic. You know the difference, right?
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you know humor and sarcasm, right? 
[QUOTE=GeneChing;910186]
You PMed and emailed me about Hardwork just prior to launching your hardwork thread. That counts as two within the last month.
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creating a thread to deride him/ridicule him and harass him is hardly the same thing as complaining to you to ban him! :eek:
I fess up, I did email you when he started to trash talk CTS. Lucky for him he stopped short on that one… but some of us now think there is a better way than banning for him
Let me just state for the record that as far I know none of you are “just glorified (fill in blank),” I do not and will not ‘decide’ who has ‘da real kungfu’ based on my very limited training in that area, and my chosen area of training does not contain special secrets that make training in other areas corrupting or unnecessary. I don’t know what everyone in your countries thinks, does not think, or knows; I do not presume to ‘advise’ them on where to go or what to do to become more “enlightened,” and I have no interest in telling you who to vote for in your country’s next election.
Is that so hard?
[QUOTE=Kansuke;910188]Let me just state for the record that as far I know none of you are “just glorified (fill in blank),” I do not and will not ‘decide’ who has ‘da real kungfu’ based on my very limited training in that area, and my chosen area of training does not contain special secrets that make training in other areas corrupting or unnecessary. I don’t know what everyone in your countries thinks, does not think, or knows; I do not presume to ‘advise’ them on where to go or what to do to become more “enlightened,” and I have no interest in telling you who to vote for in your country’s next election.
Is that so hard?[/QUOTE]
and yet, you’re so quick to sling the vitriol.
hmmmn, I gotta give you three full of shits out of five.
lol.
pffft.
[QUOTE=bawang;910084]does anyone want to buy my very nice brush five dollaronly it cleans sand from vagina very good[/QUOTE]
LMAO! 
That’s some funny **** right there.
[QUOTE=David Jamieson;910193]hmmmn, I gotta give you three full of shits out of five.[/QUOTE]LOL… And that’s not bad for you Jamieson!
I for one wish Kansuke would post more often: about wrestling and sometimes about its bearing on MMA/da street. His vitriol is sometimes funny, but more often nowadays, it’s just boring. And why he or anyone get so uptight about political bs threads is beyond me. I’m passionate about politics, but I’m not gonna get involved with the moronic threads on here about it.
[QUOTE=David Jamieson;910193]and yet, you’re so quick to sling the vitriol.
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Don’t be a presumptuous shit and you won’t have to worry about it.
[QUOTE=Mr Punch;910205]
I for one wish Kansuke would post more often: about wrestling and sometimes about its bearing on MMA/da street. [/QUOTE]
Welcome! http://ezine.kungfumagazine.com/forum/showthread.php?t=53074
[QUOTE=lkfmdc;910086]
“attack” him? I’ve just pointed out that he has 2 years of training and according to his sifu his comments in no way represent what his teacher teaches or believes. Is that “attacking him”?[/quote]
THAT WHOLE STATEMENT IS A LIE!
Can you provide any proof for these slanderous statements?
I mean proof besides the posts that you have invented!!!
You seem to be afraid, nervous and very insecure. I mean complaining to Gene and all that!
What is eating you Dave?
That comment is very ironic coming from a “man” who instigated a character assassination exercise where he doctored my posts to make me come out as a Nazi, anti-semetic and a criminal. Others who participated in this were Sanjuro ronin and cjurakpt, now posting as Taai Gihk Yahn.
When that charade crumbled around his fat ears he went on to fabricate quotes on my sifu’s behalf stating that I had 2 years of kung fu experience and had been thrown out of my school. All feeble attempts at character assassination!
He has been helped in this “exercise” by another of this forum’s “respected” members Sanjuro ronin. Their policy is to repeat the lie and try to convince as many posters as possible.
One fact is for sure and that is, you guys are insecure and afraid!
David, I gottcha and I understand you point, I just wanted to let you know that I wasnt trying to defend anyone, just calling out what I had read..
Gene,
when you said if we are more strict and start banning the annoying and rude people out here than the banned would out number the members… cracked me up!!! LMAO
its sad but oh so true
[QUOTE=lkfmdc;910086]I’ve just pointed out that he has 2 years of training and according to his sifu his comments in no way represent what his teacher teaches or believes. [/QUOTE]
If lkfmdc in fact knows that your Sifu did not make negative comments about you, yet falsely mis-represents to the forum that Sifu did make such comments, that meets the element for making a defamation claim in Court.
However, if your Sifu did make those comments, and lkfmdc is voicing his opinion on that, then there is no claim.
Folks have to truly be careful about spreading lies that they know are false, versus merely expressing opinion, which is usually OK to do.
[QUOTE=wetwonder;910237]If lkfmdc in fact knows that your Sifu did not make negative comments about you, yet falsely mis-represents to the forum that Sifu did make such comments, that meets the element for making a defamation claim in Court. [/QUOTE]
not at all, because HW’s true identity is unknown and therefore it cannot be proven that the person Dave is allegedly quoting really is his sifu at all; in the “real” world, the one that actually matters to most people, there is no negative carry-over onto his life as a result of what Dave posts, true or otherwise; the only person who might have a case would be HW’s alleged sifu, who, if things he did not say are being knowingly misattributed to him, might have a case for misrepresentation, although again, he would have to know which of his students was posting as HW in order to make that claim
[QUOTE=Kansuke;910227]Don’t be a presumptuous shit and you won’t have to worry about it.[/QUOTE]
i know you are but what am I.
Nyah nyah nyah nyah nyah.
I am rubber, you are glue, it’ll bounce off me and stick to you.
sticks and stones may break my bones, but names, will never hurt me.
…I got more, hang on reachs into trusty grab bag of ancient clichés and platitudes then puts on wizard hat and robe ;D
[QUOTE=wetwonder;910237]If lkfmdc in fact knows that your Sifu did not make negative comments about you, yet falsely mis-represents to the forum that Sifu did make such comments, that meets the element for making a defamation claim in Court.
However, if your Sifu did make those comments, and lkfmdc is voicing his opinion on that, then there is no claim.
Folks have to truly be careful about spreading lies that they know are false, versus merely expressing opinion, which is usually OK to do.[/QUOTE]
wetwonder,
lkfmdc implies that what he states is a fact. He keeps repeating that lie and others aided on some occassions by Sanuro ronin. They know that they are lying but they know there not much that can be done about it for now at least. So the attempts at character assassination continue.
Another one of their lies was that I supposedly claimed that my sifu had beaten the Gracies in a Bullshido thread. They even provided a link to the thread where all this apparently happened, knowing very well that no one here would bother to read it and hence take their word for it.
As it happens, I did post in that Bullshido thread but all I did was mention that my sifu had fought challenge matches in some of which some wavers were signed. They took this fact to invent a whole story about me claiming that he had beaten Gracies and that I was called out and exposed and banned. All lies!
The idiots who made up all these lies are trying to character assassinate me. People do this when they are insecure and feel threatened!
Take care.
So Taai Gihk Yahn got that right about the legal aspect (yes, I am surprised too).
One of the best things to come out of brazil in forever next to the women and the jiujitsu, is a band named Sepultura. Sadly their lead singer that was with them for years, left the band a few years ago, (they got a new singer from the tribe) but they have this great song called;
Propaganda:
Why dont you get a life and grow up
Why dont you realize that youre fucked up
Why criticize what you dont understand
Why change my words, you’re so afraid
You think you have the right to
Put me down
Propaganda hides your scum
Face to face you dont have a word to say
You got in my way, now you’ll have to pay
Dont, dont believe what you
See
Dont, dont believe what you read
No!!!
I know my ways, Im here to stay
I didnt start all this yesterday
Ill prove you wrong all the way
Life teaches me youre always alone
Dont, dont believe what you
See
Dont, dont believe what you read
No!!!
this isnt for anyone in particular, but for the whole damned lot of you 
LMFAO… you’re gonna sue me? Figures, little fairy would shit his pants if he ever had to face me, but he’s comfortable from behind his keyboard or getting a lawyer to call me :rolleyes:
Notice how the whole world is wrong, the whole world is lying about him, the whole world is out to get him… a real head case
Pathetic little troll, you need new material
PS: the letter denouncing him is on three different forums! TWO OF THEM I DON’T EVEN HAVE ACCOUNTS ON…:rolleyes:
[QUOTE=David Jamieson;910255]i know you are but what am I.[/QUOTE]
I believe I’ve told you what you are. I haven’t tried to tell you what Canadians think, or to advise you on how to cure your nation of ignorance and achieve enlightenment, have I?
[QUOTE=taai gihk yahn;910246]not at all, because HW’s true identity is unknown and therefore it cannot be proven that the person Dave is allegedly quoting really is his sifu at all; [/QUOTE]
No, that is not relevant to a claim for defamation. It doesn’t matter whether or not kansuke actually knows Hardwork’s Sifu. It doesn’t even matter whether or not Hardwork even has a Sifu.
Rather, to state simply, what matters for defamation is whether:
(1) kansuke based a derogatory statement on a fact that he knew was a lie (claiming the sifu made these remarks yet knowing in-fact that the sifu did not); and
(2) kansuke nonetheless tells forum readers the derogatory remark (about Hardwork) and the falsified fact (that it was said by his sifu); and
(3) one or more of the forum readers sees that the remark was meant to be derogatory and was based on the fact that in reality kansuke knew was false.
The above is called “defamation” and such claims are brought in court and are the basis for settlements everyday.
However, if kansuke did have good reason to believe that hardwork’s sifu did make such remarks, than he is just retelling what he believed to be the case and giving his opinion - both of which are OK to do b/c it is for the most part OK to give opinions.
Defamation = $ in the law. Opinions do not.
[QUOTE=Hardwork108;910257]wetwonder,
So Taai Gihk Yahn got that right about the legal aspect (yes, I am surprised too).[/QUOTE]
No hardwork, Taai Gihk Yahn did not get the law right. Though I’m sure he meant well, his comments are completely wrong.