http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XQ0j53-0zE
Is this really VT? It seems more like I Kuen…or something.Weird
[QUOTE=Happy Tiger;1241303]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XQ0j53-0zE
Is this really VT? It seems more like I Kuen…or something.Weird[/QUOTE]
Not very good.non Ip Man wing chun-the "rolling: shows that.
Is this really VT
[QUOTE=Happy Tiger;1241303]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XQ0j53-0zE
Is this really VT? It seems more like I Kuen…or something.Weird[/QUOTE] Happy Tiger , this is the first time I ever saw chi sao done this way , but my guess is that these people made up this type of chi sao , the first movement looks like tai chi version of chi sao , the second movement looks like they made it up . This is the way I see it .
Of course because only Yip Man knew real VT and he took that to HK, right? :rolleyes:
They are all wrists no elbows.
Here’s part 1 of the vid series that identifies style lineage and teacher (who is noticeably more advanced in WC mechanics.). 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nv5VhHu7UAA
personally not my cup of tea but who can say whether they have the original secret recipe or a made up recent invention.
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Not very good.non Ip Man wing chun-the "rolling: shows that.
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News flash: most wing chun is sh1t
Yes you are right. 
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Not very good.non Ip Man wing chun-the "rolling: shows that.
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Plenty of non Ip Man wing chun that doesn’t distort stances like that or produce that kind of sway.
[QUOTE=Happy Tiger;1241303]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XQ0j53-0zE
Is this really VT? It seems more like I Kuen…or something.Weird[/QUOTE]
Yes, this is Ving Tsun. I know that because it is my video. This is one variation of what has become known as “Mainland Style” WC/VT.
I was a partner in the school until my health went bad and I had to return to the states.
More info will be available as I have returned to my channel with a video blog and will soon be posting more videos of my old school.
[QUOTE=lance;1241336]Happy Tiger , this is the first time I ever saw chi sao done this way , but my guess is that these people made up this type of chi sao , the first movement looks like tai chi version of chi sao , the second movement looks like they made it up . This is the way I see it .[/QUOTE]
They are not Chi Sao. They are training. The first trains your body and lower back to duck. That one saved several of my teeth once. The second one is for lower arm control.
This is a traditional Wck.
[QUOTE=Happy Tiger;1241303]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XQ0j53-0zE
Is this really VT? It seems more like I Kuen…or something.Weird[/QUOTE]
Interesting.Loose as a goose.
no centerline = no wing chun.
Best to let Mark post one of the school’s Chi Sao clips to see that there is familiar ground.
[QUOTE=PalmStriker;1243539] Best to let Mark post one of the school’s Chi Sao clips to see that there is familiar ground.[/QUOTE]
Will do soon. Already have a short clip. Just waiting for a translation and if it does not get here by early next week, I will post it anyway.
[QUOTE=Eric_H;1243534]no centerline = no wing chun.[/QUOTE]
I agree,but sometimes you loose centerline and you have to use something else.
[QUOTE=markfreedom;1243374]Yes, this is Ving Tsun. I know that because it is my video. This is one variation of what has become known as “Mainland Style” WC/VT.
I was a partner in the school until my health went bad and I had to return to the states.
More info will be available as I have returned to my channel with a video blog and will soon be posting more videos of my old school.[/QUOTE]
Very nice clip. Thanks for posting it on youtube.
[QUOTE=markfreedom;1243375]They are not Chi Sao. They are training. The first trains your body and lower back to duck. That one saved several of my teeth once. The second one is for lower arm control.[/QUOTE]
Nice video and good to hear from someone who can explain what the guys were doing because it seems that if you don’t do the standard rolling of Ip Mans HK Wing Chun too many people jump around and throw their toys out their prams!
Interactive training was key to my training too and this is how I view your clip. There are so many ways to interact its mind blowing and as long as YOU know what the purpose is and it benefits your health and understanding of the Chun then all power to you dude. Let the Chisau addicts carry on with their own dream.
Look forward to seeing more from you here