Is there such a thing as Northern Dragon style and does anyone teach it?

I know that there is the Southern Dragon style like what GMaster Yip Wing Hong teaches but is there a Northern style of Dragon too? If not, it seems unusual(no offense ok?) that it is called Southern Dragon and not just Dragon style.

I don’t think that most people who train in Lung Ying do call it Southern Dragon. Its just Dragon or Lung Ying. {Jing Jung to you melt :-)}

There are other styles that have Dragon in the name, Lung Shou Pai (Dragon Claw) , Pai Lum (White Dragon).
Are these Northern?
There was a Black Dragon club in LA chinatown, what they taught there was certainly not Lung Ying.
Anybody know about any of these?

Mark

Oh and a question arising out of the first post.
Is Yip Wing Hong a Grandmaster of the style?
Melt?

Mark S

Hi,

I only used the term "grandmaster" because when I saw his videos advertised...that's how it lists him. Can you please tell me what good schools exist that teach genuine Dragon style besides master Yip's in NY? I currently live in Iowa and I am planning on going to California after I graduate Chiropractic school. Thank you.

California has a lung ying school, in san diego. and in san fransisco as well. don’t know about iowa, but there is one in ohio (whether it’s publicly taught or not, i’m not sure…) :slight_smile:

Sifu Yip, grandmaster? nah, he’s a very well respected Sifu is all. (hi guys, i lup u) LYG is the only grandmaster in lung ying. ain’t that right ah li?

speaking of northern dragon, i did have a guy email me once about it… taught in africa out of all places. my impression was that it was a hybrid art based on what i was given, though he truely did believe it was ‘the’ Northern Dragon system!

To see what you want to see is worse than being blind.

Lung Ying More Kiew and blended village derivations of same are the Dragon styles that are still in existance.

There is also the Dragon aspects that are within other styles such as Hung styles and village Hung Styles.

Ha Say Fu has an entire Dragon set within it that is quite comprehensive in regards to Dragon techniques.

As well other 5 animal styles hold aspects of Dragon.

As far as a specific “Northern Dragon Style”, no, although there have been claims to the end that the fundamental North Shaolin set “Lien Bo Chuan” is a remnant of the Shaolin Dragon system. I personally hold this in question, although without question it is Shaolin. Other aspects of Shaolin Kung fu styles hold Dragon techniques in them also.

peace

Kung Lek

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Hi all.

Mark:
I don’t get the southern dragon term either. I think more correctly, if it must be lumped somewhere, lung ying should go under Hak Ga, for ethnic reasons. Southern implies it is a stand-up, close range art. I find a little more in it than that.
Pai Lum is karaddie. :slight_smile:

Trisk:
I know what you mean, when we refer to Grandmaster Lam as “the” grandmaster. However, it has become commonplace to endow a teacher’s teacher with the reference grandmaster. Since Yip Sifu’s student has his own school, so using “grandmaster” would serve to denote more than one level exists after himself. Just my opinion. I use the term Sigung for my teacher’s teacher, reserving Grandmaster for Lam Yiu Kwai, as our style’s original ambassador. In your case, you can say Grandmaster and it means both!

Kung Lek:
As always, you come up with the kung fu encyclopedia! One correction, Mor Kiu is considered a set (core set) not a name for the style. In regards to Lien Bu Chuan, Northern Shaolin and Five Animals: I learned Long Fist from Han Ching Tan lineage and so got the set to which you refer (as does half of the world). I also seriously doubt this relates to lung ying in any way. There are a couple of hands that bear direct relation to some techniques, but that’s just kung fu. The dragon expressed in northern five animals is NOTHING like lung ying.

Killer Nerd:
Hello from Flahridah! Did the rest of you forget us down here?

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Thanks for all the input. OY VEY! Meltdawn! You sound exactly like my grandfather George who lived in Canarsie, Brooklyn before he went to “Flah-ri-dah”. The rest of “us”? Please explain.

Melt, whats ‘karaddie’?

Mark

The rest of you… those who didn’t mention lung ying in Flaridah.

Karaddie, ka ra te, just my little bit of slang.

“Waiting is bad.” - Musashi
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that’s cause we mentioned u in the thread already! :smiley: don’t worry we love ya.

To see what you want to see is worse than being blind.

Animal systems are not styles

It can never be stated enough that style and system are terms that are not interchangeble.

Dragon is one of the classical animal systems of Northern Shaolin kungfu. Of course now a days most of the classical systems have been lost to “evolution of the art”, which is merely another way of saying one of the desciples felt his contributions to the system necessitated changing the name. Finding info on the classical Northern animal systems isn’t as easy as their Southern counterparts.