I have been looking high and low in my area (Monterey) to find Kungfu lessons. I have talked to an instructor, and a couple Karate places. They all told me Kungfu was not in our area and was a rarity. Today, I spoke with a Karate Black belt who actually teaches and she said that all Karate IS Kungfu. I feel that statment was not an educated one and because of it, I should surely NOT take private lessons from her. Besides, she got a little defensive when I told her I wanted to take a look at the style of Tang Sudo classes before I make my final decision between that and Shotokan. Any thoughts also on Tang Sudo? It sounded interesting by the description. Please help, I am so frustrated with this whole search for what is real.
Karate is not Kung Fu.
Tang so Do Mu du Kwon
It’s Korean Shotokan (Basically) very real.
What style does your Girlfriend teach?
What are you looking for in a style?
Do you want to learn how to fight or for Self defence?
Are you interested in Spirituality and healing?
Don’t loose hope, we can help you 
:rolleyes:
“Life’s a great Adventure, Mate”
Jacko Jackson
You can attain kung fu from practicing karate.
“Life’s a great Adventure, Mate”
Jacko Jackson
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size=“-1”>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Vettrix:Today, I spoke with a Karate Black belt who actually teaches and she said that all Karate IS Kungfu. I feel that statment was not an educated one and because of it, I should surely NOT take private lessons from her.[/quote]
What?!!! I’ve never heard of that. JohnyHS, are you serious? Could you explain it to me if it is? Thanks.
The Gatekeeper
WOW!! Those schools are sure popular lately!!
Sounds like a place we have in Oregon…Samurai Karate in Medford, OR. They “claim” they know like 7 different styles, and they are the BEST school in the area. Now…let me think…um, NO-I DON’T THINK SO.. it’s pretty funny…
it’s for good laughs!
I am ALWAYS Kung Fu Fighting…what about you?
johnny is rite you can attain kung fu from practising karate
also i guess high level karate is very very similar to some kung fu. such as hung gar
what do bin laden and general custer have in common???
They’re both wondering where the fu(k all of those tomahawks are coming from. - donated by mojo
I had the pleasure of a long talk with a karate master back along. He was all circles and sensitivity and used ki/chi. He demonstrated some limb paralysis on me. He hardly touched my arm and it hung limp until he touched it again. That was a bit frightening!
So karate can be kungfu. Karate started as kungfu, after all. It just misses the point in many cases.
The powers of Kung Fu never fail!
– Hong Kong Phooey
How can they claim to teach Kugn Fu when they list all the styles they teach right there on their site, and not one of them is a Kung Fu style?
There used to be a warning to people who wanted to learn Kung Fu, telling them that there is no such beast as a school that teaches Kung Fu as well as Karate. Whatever happened to that?
People, you should know this by now…
Kung Fu actually has a definition to it, so anything that fits that definition IS Kung Fu.
Simple.
It may not be what one may consider Original Kung Fu, but Karate is Kung Fu.
Kung Fu is how you develope yourself.
From what I’ve been told it doesn’t translate perfectly but that may be wrong. However, I believe Kung Fu means something like “Growth through diligent practice”.
That’s what I’ve been told and I always believe what I’m told. 
Success is a label made by the insecure.
Do your homework!
Read “Okinawan Karate” by Mark Bishop.
All Karate came from Fouchou China to the Ryuku Empire (Okinawa). All, not some. ALL.
It’s True
Shorin = Shaolin
“Life’s a great Adventure, Mate”
Jacko Jackson
What’s wrong with you people!!
Karate is not Chinese Martial Arts!.
Anyone can attaing kung fu in anything.Piano,literature,etc.
He wasn’t talking about skill achieved over time or hard work, he was asking if Karate is the same as the Chinese martial arts known as kung fu here in the west.
Quick lesson:Chinese martial arts have had many diferent names over the years and not once it was called Karate
Karate,Judo,Kenjutsu,Ninpo = Japanese
Kung fu,wu shu(traditional and contemporary),Chuen Fa/Kuen Fa,Kuo shu,etc.. = Not Japanese
Karate may have some influences from kung fu but it’s not kung fu.Karate does not completely come from kung fu it, also came from the art know as Te[sp?].
Hope you know the diference now.
“Always be ready”
“right, that’s it!you’ve insulted me, and you’ve insulted the shaolin temple!”-Fish of Furry
Are all CMA “kung fu”?
“Americans don’t have the courage to come here,” Mullah Mohammed Omar, leader of the Taliban
There is only one tactical principle which is not subject to change; it is, ‘To use the means at hand to inflict the maximum amount of wounds, death, and destruction on the enemy in the minimum amount of time.’ Patton
Karate will drill in muscle memory that will make next to impossible to really understand CMA.
But while I tend to think most Karate is for fighting people who are slow, stupid and unsophisticated, I’ve known some pretty tough Karate guys.
“Poor is the pupil who
does not surpass his
master” - Leonardo Da
Vinci
What’s this? We are allowed to bash Karate in this forum?
Karate is Karate.
If someone was in taiwan practicing karate in a park and thugs came along and tried to mug him and he put a stop to it with his karate, anyone who was looking would say “his kung fu is good”
Funny world we live in, dualism rules the day for most of us.
Personally, I can’t wait to get over my own impatience.
peace
Kung Lek
All Chinese martial arts are not Kung-Fu–that wrestling that’s named because of a horn on the head.
Skill in almost anything could be considered Kung-Fu. But Kung-Fu here is a reference to the stuff considered a martial art. Karate is Okinawan. Okinawa was not part of Japan when Karate came into being. Before the early mid nineteen thirties (After the reference point, old) the kara in Karate refered to the nick-name for China. Te did and still does refer to Hand. Okinawan martial arts, empty hand got to be referred to as China Hands because a hundred or so artisans and craftspeople and their families went to Okinawa on an exchange type program and the prevalent martial arts~ of China–Kung-Fu got taught to the Okinawans. Whatever the Okinawans were doing before, there theoretically was a significant amount of Kung-Fu to it to keep a name of China Hands. When it got to Japan some things might not have been broadly taught (Okinawans feeling towards the overtaking Japanese~) but there’s enough in the generality of Kung-Fu which does have basic blocks (though perhaps evoled by use) and punches (perhaps evolved by use/need). After early mid nineteen thirties (After the reference point, old) The character used to represent the sound kara in Karate was changed from China (Chinese) to empty.~ Perhaps some such, so to speak (shake a can).
Very some such, perhaps might have been, likely say some, some not.
Couldn’t have said it better No_Know
Hey that stuff made sense.Are you starting to slip N_K?
“Always be ready”
“right, that’s it!you’ve insulted me, and you’ve insulted the shaolin temple!”-Fish of Furry