Is this a style or a tecnique? I heard of a way,I think it was iron body,where U can get your bones to be rock hard. I wonder if U can use this tecinque while practicing another style such as mantis or jkd?
Both are training techniques/conditioning techniqes that can be applied to any martial art/system.
JWT
Yep. Both are conditioning methods, neither are fighting systems.
Iron Body makes your body more resilient to damage. The bones become more dense, strikes hurt less, but if done properly there is no loss in sensitivity.
Iron Palm makes your palm “harder” in essense, allowing you to deliver harder strikes. At high levels practicioners can break a selected brick in a stack, and do other cool things, which translate into awesome fighting power, provided you can get a strike in.
Iron Body is more for defense, Iron Palm is more for offence, generally speaking.
Iron
Iron Body juices your strikes as well, at least the internal ways of going about it. Like all skills Gong Fu, there’s more than one way to skin a cat.
where can U learn these conditionings? What do they consist of?
They generally consist of deep breathing exercises, controlled striking to parts of the body, or a combination thereof. Your teacher may have it but not told you yet. They’re good things to have, but you’re better off focusing on your basics for a few years. As a general rule, you want to start Iron Palm when you’re hitting hard enough so that you have to pull your strikes so that you don’t damage your hands. You want to start Iron Body when you can avoid about 80 % of strikes thrown at you in a live situation.
Beware of charlatans. The instruction of both skills is pretty simple. People who try to make it sound mystical are generally trying to use their Qi to attack your wallet.
Is that what it consists of?Breathing techniques? I thought it was like in the movies when the shaolin guys punch into that hot ash. Please excuse my ignorance I’ve recently taken interest in chinese martial arts,but I thought there was a lot more to it.
It’s cool. Gong Fu is lot closer to modern boxing or wrestling training than in the movies. It’s all common sense once you get used to the cultural differences.
BEWARE: Everyone seems to have this need to defend the Shaolin Temple 
That’s cool if you want to be a grown up lackey in silk pajamas. I suggest you regularly test your training against amateur boxers or people with a high school wrestling background. It’ll keep you honest.
Cool.Thanx for the advise.My cousin is a wrestler,so that will help. One of my buds is a boxer too.I’ll hold off on sparring him though.(he’s turning pro this year) But yeah it makes sense.
Is that what it consists of?Breathing techniques? I thought it was like in the movies when the shaolin guys punch into that hot ash. Please excuse my ignorance I’ve recently taken interest in chinese martial arts,but I thought there was a lot more to it.
dear yung one, you have gotten some good advice from people out here but their are many training techniques that go along with iron palm training and the movie thing is not as far off as it seems.
To start training you should find a worthy teacher and never try to learn from books or videos,and this description is in no way a teaching guide just some helpful information.
cultivating your chi is the first step, this is where the breathing comes into play. after many months
you start condtioning you hands by striking soft surfaces such as canvas filled with mung beans.
after many stages you start to strike hard and more dense objects, eventually you strike iron that are held in a culdren I have mine in a stand in a wok filled with iron pellets. In the movies they used to light the pellets for more of an effect but it is not nesccesary. what is neccesary is proper tutelege and topical tonic called dit dat jow, not the kind you find online but the homemade stuff, this is imperitive to proper training, and retards disfigurement and nerve damage.
movies glorify a lot but they do get their info from somewhere so the hot ash thing is somewhat true. Training IP is a rewarding practice and fun when you learn how to break things that you thought were humanly impossible.
My teacher is working on not lifting his hand from the object and just shooting chi through it as he twists his hips in order to perform the break. very high level. good luck
HMMMMM. It sounds cool. So it’s kinda like a training thing on the side? Thats cool,I just hope there is a teacher in town who can teach it correctly.
Yung Apprentice a.k.a. YungOne!
ohh seems neat^^ i’m interested in chinese martial arts also just can’t find any good info on it…and like a lot of people i’m interested in it because too many Bruce Lee movies.
What does the training of iron body consist of?
How come they call it iron palm? Do they not use a fist?If they do, then why didn’t they call it iron fist?
I think most iron palm training programs train the fist, it’s just primarily the palm that they use.
There is also iron fist training, which doesn’t involve the palm (so I’ve read).
Iron
HMMMm. You wouldn’t happen to know anything about iron body? Would you? Are there any websites on iron palm/fist and iron body?
Conditoning skills really depend on your style of choice. Maybe you wont even need it. You shouldn’t worry about that until you choose. Some styles have Iron body and the like which can be considered external, others have Neigung, chigung or internal skills. That involves alot of breathing and “chi” building excercises so it’ll also allow you take attacks to your body. It doesn’t involve striking anything nor any dit da jow. If you take a style like Shuai Chiao you strike but that takes a backseat to sweeps and throwing so Iron palm/etc may not be used for obvious reasons. If you want to learn it, styles like Hung Gar, Choy Li Fut, Northern Shaolin, definitely teach it. Search around a bit though.
Iron Fist training
I just got done reading a book on Iron Fist training and it is pretty hardcore. The very first thing you do is go out, find a nice solid rock, and punch it hard until your knuckles break! Then you leave it alone, applying dit da jow, until it heals. This has the effect of calcifying the bone there by scarring, making the bone thicker and tougher. Once they have fully healed, you again begin hitting rocks, first small smooth ones, about 25 pounds. you punch it lightly at first but eventually your goal is to be able to punch it hard enough to move it a few feet, then you get a larger rock. You go about this, upgraidng your rock for a larger one every few months, after you are able to move it a few feet with each punch. You shoul dbe able to move a three hundred pound rock a few feet by the time you are ready to “graduate”! this disfigures your hand however, making it almost useless for anything but punching, and so often times practitioners chose just one hand, usually thier off hand, to train so they still had their good hand to use for finer manipulation.
That’s a valid method, but there’s others out there that work just as well and wont fukk up your hands. That’s the nice thing about CMA in modern times, if you look around, you can find a better method than what your system may have.
Yeah, I heard of a story where this guy who was practicing this technique,eventually had his middle knuckle and his index knuckle fuse together into one big ass knuckle! It was kinda gross but they said he could or almost could kill a man with just one hit! I’m going to be taking 7 star mantis and a Tai mantis or something like that.