Seminar on ‘Investigation on some forgotten WCK history’
A paper on ‘Investigation on some forgotton Wing Chun Kuen history’ from Wayne Yung
A paper on ‘Investigation on some forgotton Wing Chun Kuen history’ from Wayne Yung, Snake Crane Wing Chun.
http://www.slideshare.net/ccwayne/scwc-investigation-onsomeforgottonwingchunkuenhistoryscwcykwaa
Members of the Hong Kong MA community thinks Wayne’s writing/research is full of wrong info… :eek:
They even set up a Blog requesting evidence to support his theories… 
http://blogcity.me/blog/reply_blog_express.asp?f=K2G7TEA6L8215037&id=681082
2014/11/14 08:44:47
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https://m.facebook.com/waikeung.mok.58/posts/355430011297057
https://www.facebook.com/kamfai.chan.39/posts/916012785095413:0
https://www.facebook.com/kamfai.chan.39/posts/914233471940011
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[QUOTE=Jim Roselando;1279515]Members of the Hong Kong MA community thinks Wayne’s writing/research is full of wrong info… :eek:
They even set up a Blog requesting evidence to support his theories…
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Hendrik really picked a winner there, didn’t he? 
[QUOTE=Jim Roselando;1279515]Members of the Hong Kong MA community thinks Wayne’s writing/research is full of wrong info… :eek:
They even set up a Blog requesting evidence to support his theories…
http://blogcity.me/blog/reply_blog_express.asp?f=K2G7TEA6L8215037&id=681082
2014/11/14 08:44:47
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https://m.facebook.com/waikeung.mok.58/posts/355430011297057
https://www.facebook.com/kamfai.chan.39/posts/916012785095413:0
https://www.facebook.com/kamfai.chan.39/posts/914233471940011
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Evidence to supports theories… Who woulda thought
aiwan:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/374081166065892/permalink/484165675057440/
https://www.facebook.com/groups/374081166065892/permalink/482762311864443/
https://www.facebook.com/groups/374081166065892/permalink/482337425240265/
China :
http://tieba.baidu.com/p/3443277129
After Sifu Wayne Yung complaining about Hendrik bringing his gang of people making trouble with him in Hong Kong, Taiwan and China, he was totally disappeared.
Sifu Wayne Yung declaration about no connection with any emei here in the forum on 24/09/2014
Please see people responding.
We can see that all these people group together now and doing something bad on Sifu Wayne Yung.
As we call recall, someone has said “Making use of Sergio, don’t let him use you, but you use him”. We can see how good they are. Something happened here in September, Sifu Wayne Yung never brought to Hong Kong, China and Taiwan, but this month, Hendrik said a lot bad on Sifu Wayne Yung in Asia, he got no choice to bring the postings here to China, Hong Kong and Taiwan. Hendrik uses different names in China, Taiwan and Hong Kong. Now, he is totally disappeared there.
Sifu Wayne Yung is just interesting in their SCWC history and finding the roots only, not your emei. He doesn’t say any bad on yours, why you and all others need to make SCWC poor. Is there any AGENDA behind ? If you said the information of his paper wrong, can you indicate clearly with your evidence and show to the public. Not just bring it out and cannot proof with evidence. Today, we can see the written paper and the video clearly with the concrete based.
Jim Roselando, I doubt how much Chinese you know, and I appreciate how you can find the relevant links and post all the Chinese postings about Sifu Wayne Yung here. You know, all these had been discussed in September here, and also one of the reasons Hendrik need to leave here. I think you should be the second one to leave this forum. You try to bring incorrect information here to rumour. As a researcher, you do not have any justification what is true and what is not true. Poor Jim!!!
Taiwan:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/374081166065892/permalink/484165675057440/
https://www.facebook.com/groups/374081166065892/permalink/482762311864443/
https://www.facebook.com/groups/374081166065892/permalink/482337425240265/
China :
http://tieba.baidu.com/p/3443277129
After Sifu Wayne Yung complaining about Hendrik bringing his gang of people making trouble with him in Hong Kong, Taiwan and China, he was totally disappeared.
Sifu Wayne Yung declaration about no connection with any emei here in the forum on 24/09/2014
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...type=1&theater
Please see people responding.
We can see that all these people group together now and doing something bad on Sifu Wayne Yung.
As we call recall, someone has said “Making use of Sergio, don’t let him use you, but you use him”. We can see how good they are. Something happened here in September, Sifu Wayne Yung never brought to Hong Kong, China and Taiwan, but this month, Hendrik said a lot bad on Sifu Wayne Yung in Asia, he got no choice to bring the postings here to China, Hong Kong and Taiwan. Hendrik uses different names in China, Taiwan and Hong Kong. Now, he is totally disappeared there.
Sifu Wayne Yung is just interesting in their SCWC history and finding the roots only, not your emei. He doesn’t say any bad on yours, why you and all others need to make SCWC poor. Is there any AGENDA behind ? If you said the information of his paper wrong, can you indicate clearly with your evidence and show to the public. Not just bring it out and cannot proof with evidence. Today, we can see the written paper and the video clearly with the concrete based.
Jim Roselando, I doubt how much Chinese you know, and I appreciate how you can find the relevant links and post all the Chinese postings about Sifu Wayne Yung here. You know, all these had been discussed in September here, and also one of the reasons Hendrik need to leave here. I think you should be the second one to leave this forum. You try to bring incorrect information here to rumour. As a researcher, you do not have any justification what is true and what is not true. Poor Jim!!!
Taiwan:
China :
http://tieba.baidu.com/p/3443277129
After Sifu Wayne Yung complaining about Hendrik bringing his gang of people making trouble with him in Hong Kong, Taiwan and China, he was totally disappeared.
Sifu Wayne Yung declaration about no connection with any emei here in the forum on 24/09/2014
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...type=1&theater
Please see people responding.
We can see that all these people group together now and doing something bad on Sifu Wayne Yung.
As we call recall, someone has said “Making use of Sergio, don’t let him use you, but you use him”. We can see how good they are. Something happened here in September, Sifu Wayne Yung never brought to Hong Kong, China and Taiwan, but this month, Hendrik said a lot bad on Sifu Wayne Yung in Asia, he got no choice to bring the postings here to China, Hong Kong and Taiwan. Hendrik uses different names in China, Taiwan and Hong Kong. Now, he is totally disappeared there.
Sifu Wayne Yung is just interesting in their SCWC history and finding the roots only, not your emei. He doesn’t say any bad on yours, why you and all others need to make SCWC poor. Is there any AGENDA behind ? If you said the information of his paper wrong, can you indicate clearly with your evidence and show to the public. Not just bring it out and cannot proof with evidence. Today, we can see the written paper and the video clearly with the concrete based.
Jim Roselando, I doubt how much Chinese you know, and I appreciate how you can find the relevant links and post all the Chinese postings about Sifu Wayne Yung here. You know, all these had been discussed in September here, and also one of the reasons Hendrik need to leave here. I think you should be the second one to leave this forum. You try to bring incorrect information here to rumour. As a researcher, you do not have any justification what is true and what is not true. Poor Jim!!!
Jim Roselando:
Really?
So was it?
How is Grandmaster Hendrik nowdays? I hope he is well.
Jim, so sorry but I’d rather believe someone like Wayne Yiung who actually trains daily in Wing Chun then some one like Hendrik who likes to hear his own voice on Youtube!
Ronnie Gonad… wrote:
Have many friends and teachers who do! Including people I work with… We all got a nice laugh while reading the feedback on Wayne’s “”“Research”“”… JR
With regards to WY’s research I think it is good for those reading it to hear others opinions.
So, not only was a blog set up to denounce Wayne’s research but also a Hong Kong columnist published an article saying the info was bogus and don’t forget to include the members of the HK CLF family that are also saying Wayne’s info is bogus. Seems like a whole bunch of well known people disagree!
Blog Link:
http://blogcity.me/blog/reply_blog_e...5037&id=681082)
HK Columnist link:
Hung Sing CLF Link:
Here you can see another Sae Hok WC family member, Hung Sing CLF, Hong Kong Columnist & White Crane’s Lee Kong all gathering to discuss:
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10205455291688009&set=p.10205455291688009&type=1&theater
Lastly, below is a small piece of some info that was posted online. If anyone wants to read the full piece just google search it and its easy to find…
A public proposal to Mr. Yung of Snake Crane Wing Chun by Hung Shing Choy Lee Fut Chan Kaam Fai lineage:
FB108 ,
In the Facebook, My sifu Chan Kaam Fai has publicly asked Mr. Yung to explain Mr. Yung’s claim on “Snake Crane wing chun 108 move was separated into three sets in order to subdue the long bridge wide horse stance Choy Lee Fut.”
However, Mr. Yung did not provided a formal reply.
If Mr. Yung is quoting any expert or known publication, Mr. Yung could directly state the sources to reply my sifu’s question. If it is Mr. Yung personal research finding , please provide evidence to clarify the claim…
So, basically, you and Hendrik hooked up with Wayne a while back and publicised it here and all over the internet as some sort of revolutionary meeting of the inner circle of the transcendent minds, and after it all went pear-shaped with the resultant clash of the titanic egos, with him saying you guys are full of sht, you’re now saying he’s full of sht?
How unexpected!
Seems like a whole bunch of well known people disagree!
A whole lot of people disagree with Hendrik’s and your schtick as well. BFD.
Being “well known”, if that is in fact the case outside the strange circles you appear to move in - Ive never heard of any of these f*ckers - means sweet FA as far as credibility goes. Just look at the various celebrity endorsements for various bullsh!t that are going around. It’s a logical fallacy called “appeal to authority”.
None of your Facebook links work, BTW. I imagine on past form they’ll just link to pics of a few fat Chinese guys sitting around eating.
We all got a nice laugh while reading the feedback on Wayne’s “”“Research”“”… JR
Now you know how many forum members felt watching your “Wing Chun Revolution” video.
Well said Anerlich!
More “smoke & mirrors” from Grandmaster Hen****'s Number One Disciple Jimmy-boy Roselando!
Hendrik said Jim Roselando knows museum address where one of the key evidence for his claim is held
http://www.qigongmaster.com/masterzhang/lineage/mtemeiqigong.php
Hendrik never provided the address of that museum so I am asking Jim to give the address so I can directly verify existence of that book
You will be waiting an eternity as Jimmy-Boy won’t provide the address because it doesn’t exist! More “smoke & mirrors”
I will contact museum of national history in Taipei and ask is such a book really exist . If it it does ,and books from 1200"s are extremely rare and well known to historians ,I believe i can obtain valid data about that book , including where it is kept . I hope i will gt an answer soon.
Please keep us posted on your research!
Jim, as a researcher, you are not honest enough to bring the whole fact out and selectively bringing those you like to say bad to sifu Yung ONLY. Are you really a serious WCK researcher ? I don’t think so because you are not HONEST. You just want to achieve what you want, no matter it is right or not. Are you really PinSun WCK guy after GM Fung died ?
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Sifu Wayne Yung invited all Choy Li Fat people in the world in September to read all the papers written with Hendrik Santos to see any saying bad with Choy Li Fat. Some papers are working with Hendrik Santos, but only Sifu Wayne Yung was attacked by those CLF people. MOre, Hendrik was caught he allied with those people to attack Sifu Wayne Yung in China, in Taiwan and in Hong Kong. However, all were resolved by the truth.
https://www.facebook.com/wayne.yung.7/posts/10205103282128061
This link show the people grouped together attacking sifu Yung. However, Sifu Yung bring the links from KFO in Sepetember there to show how R.C. and H.S. are. They are totally disappeared.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/374081166065892/permalink/483444138462927/
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Jim, Roselando, your Chinese should be good enough to understand how Sifu Yung replying to the attack from the columnist
http://www.am730.com.hk/column-237393
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Jim, do you check other sifu how to comment the Hung Shing CKF guy ?
From Iron Ring Master Ho Hung Sun
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REad more about the Hung Sing CLF guy from other sifus.
https://www.facebook.com/joe.po.771/posts/329619753887676?pnref=story
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Traditional Chinese version and Simplified Chiense version of the Investigation on some forgotton Wing Chun Kuen History for reading and downloading. It is more clear from sifu Wayne Yung because it is written in Chinese.
Traditional Chinese :
http://www.slideshare.net/ccwayne/scwc-investigation-onsomeforgottonwingchunkuenhistorytscwcykwaa
Simplified Chinese :
http://www.slideshare.net/ccwayne/scwc-investigation-onsomeforgottonwingchunkuenhistorysscwcykwaa
While I found the article interesting, I also found it a bit lacking and haphazardly put together. This isn’t meant as an offence or to say that it is agenda laden, just found myself asking more questions than could be addressed with the content put forth. For example there is not tangible evidence that says Fok Bo Chuen was taught by Law Man Kung, some legends state that he was taught by Lee Man Mao others by Dai Fa Min Kam. I agree that the relationship between Choy Lay Fut and Wing Chun is long and storied, but… As for the reason that Wing Chun has been transmitted as 1 form, 3 forms and as San Sik has little to do with the Tai Ping rebellion. Realistically speaking if this were the reason couldn’t we come to the assumption that the quickest way to train vast numbers in combat efficiency would be with short San Sik sequences? There are also the legends that the relationship between Choy Lay Fut and Wing Chun stems from Fut Gar, this is a connection constantly overlooked and rarely researched. All in all good try but IMO a lot of work still needs to be done before someone can step up and claim the throne of the oldest, purest, most original Wing Chun branch.