basically then it’s keep training and at the end of the day: win some lose some 
david
Originally posted by dezhen2001
[B]basically then it’s keep training and at the end of the day: win some lose some
david [/B]
Other perspectives have psychological utility. But can any be more true?
- kj
KJ
What but a myriad of carefully chosen angles can reveal the beauty of a diamond?
Re: KJ
Originally posted by Alpha Dog
What but a myriad of carefully chosen angles can reveal the beauty of a diamond?
Indeed.
Ah poetry.
How delightful! A diamond cut from cheese!!
But thank you to Kathy Jo for bringing this discussion back into line. Your post was excellent.
All of the factors are related and interdependent, I agree, but surely Speed is also derived from Structure to a large extent: ie the structure of your muscles and your body linkage in a relaxed manner…?
Re: Ah poetry.
Originally posted by Mat
surely Speed is also derived from Structure to a large extent: ie the structure of your muscles and your body linkage in a relaxed manner…?
I must agree that this combined with positioning and precision are among key factors. Actually, I believe that highly refined positioning and precision depend, as you allude, on proper relaxation and structure (in all its encompassed meaning).
Another factor in “perceived speed” is the importance of “timing.” Timing, is highly related to sensitivity as previously mentioned, in addition to relaxed readiness, and avoidance of over-commitment in any form.
There are physiological factors which impact timing also, some of which can be improved or at least compensated for through training. Views on how to best accomplish this will of course vary.
As you pointed out and IMHO, the factors are all related and interdependent for optimal performance. I confess I’m not yet finished perfecting that last part, LOL.
The precise integration of all elements contributes highly to my deep fascination with Wing Chun. I no longer seem to be able to pick out any one concept or attribute that does not touch and impact the balance of others, in theory or in practice.
Regards,
- Kathy Jo
Kathy Jo is correct (and erudite).
Thank you, Andrew. I also highly regard your perspectives and sense of reason.
Your sense of humor is none too shabby either. 
Regards,
- Kathy Jo
Re: A different perspective
Originally posted by kj
As you pointed out and IMHO, the factors are all related and interdependent for optimal performance. I confess I’m not yet finished perfecting that last part, LOL.
Of course ‘IMHO’: I was agreeing with you!!! I will do so again!! LOL
Also LOL at your LOL: me neither, I have a long way to go! Sometimes I can’t even see the end!!
Originally posted by kj
Timing and Speed result primarily as functions of Position and Sensitivity, and Power is largely derived from Structure.
This point was the one I took issue with. I was nitpicking over your distinctions between sensitivity, position and structure and their interrelationship. the first two paragraphs of your response have answered my question and shut me up!!
Originally posted by kj
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Just a different perspective.
I differ on that!!
Originally posted by red5angel
[B]Andrew - "Your untutored dogmatism would be a joke in the occult world as well as the martial. "
Your statement here shows you are not worth talking with this about. You are as obviously steeped in your beliefs as you accuse me of being. I can respect strong beliefes and even strong opinions but not when they come off a forked tongue. In the future, if you wish to hold a discussion I recommend you try a freindlier tone and leave out accusations. Dont presume to know me or what it is I believe or train. This forum is for discussion, and unless you come to my house or my school and trian what I train and talk to me personally then you have no basis for which to stand on when making presumptions. [/B]
Hi Red,
You are overreacting to Andrew’s comments. Your sihengs and at least one sije have pointed out corrections in your notions to you. You are going to feel foolish when you finally meet some of Ken’s students and they disagree with the writing you’ve been doing.
At the end of the day, we are all just dabbling to some degree in martial arts. Our lives (in the sense of “life or death”), and for most of us, our livelihoods do not depend on it. Lighten up on those who criticize and challenge you intellectually. Their statements all have some truth, and though you don’t perceive it, they are offering you wisdom and opportunities for an expanded vision of the art.
Finally, show some good sportsmanship. This forum is not like a “death match.” We will all walk away with our friendships or dislikes depending how we address one another in civilized discourse.
You are too new in your lineage to be speaking as you do as an authority. If we don’t recognize your knowledge, how can you expect others to bow before it?
Most of the time, you’re pretty even-handed in your responses, but every once in a while you lose it. Before you react in anger, take a step back from the keyboard, go do something else for a while, (I suggest SLT), and after half an hour or so, when you re-read what made you angry, you may feel differently about it.
For your sake, I hope this constant “battling” in cyberspace isn’t taking some kind of a toll on you. Try to keep your perspective.
Regards,
Grendel - you are correct, a waste of time, I apologise for the interruption.
Back to internal power. Its the linking of the body, the ability to build power with your root, in your legs and use your entire body to deliver that power.
Red,
hmmm- go rent Tyson vs. Spinks, the HBO special with commentary by Tyson’s trainer, and multiple angles of that little 90 second demolition. You might go looking for another definition after that.
Later,
Andrew
Internal
Fut Sao Wing Chun Kuen utilizes internal concepts and Hei/Nei Gung training. Body posturing and horse stance rooting are key. www.buddhapalm.com