One of the most common non-rational appeals is an argumentum ad hominem–or, as the Latin phrase suggests, an “argument against the person” (and not against the ideas he or she is presenting). Our decisions should be based on a rational evaluation of the arguments with which we are presented, not on an emotional reaction to the person or persons making that argument. But because we often react more strongly to personalities than to the sometimes abstract and complex arguments they are making, ad hominem appeals are often very effective with someone who is not thinking critically.
Okay you can’t let go, somthing that happen between Redmond and myself over two years ago Redmond and myself have not said anything to each other, but you guys keep it going, well nothing that I can do about that, and Redmond can’t stop it also, becaues it’s not about Redmond… understandable… Power, Power, Power!!!
just don’t try to claim you’re someone or something you’re not. like the originator of ‘the “colonel’s secret spices” syndrome’ saying. it’s particularly old and was coined in the LA wilshire 500 district.
And speaking of multiple personalities who NEVER seem to stop reincarnating…am I the only one around here who has noticed that this “newcomer”, WingChunTao, and who has a grand total of 21 posts…and who is already siding with Ali Rahim on various issues…is ALSO from Detroit???
Check out his latest post carefully:
“Ali, Some people don’t want peace. They just want to bully people around, read things into post, cry to moderators and all that Jazz. They are the ones who keep brining up Redmond and dragging out this and other shenannigans. Trust me when I say this WC world “some of us here in Detroit DON’T spend our time defacing others like some door say WE do”. We don’t resort to calling people names, defacing there character or any of this mess…” (WingChunTao)
***IT’S THE PINCH-HITTERS who are always writing lies and slander about Phil Redmond - but we all know who the manager of the team is who keeps sending them up to the plate.
And until all of this is STOPPED, Mr. Moderator…I’ll continue to post about it.
A lesson in combat / A experiment to measure the level of silliness
preliminary analysis and pot shotting/probing
first get a read off the person or situation , this is developed through time standing in front of many different people an intuitive recon ability per say
in this situation I simply stated the demise of the forum based on the current direction of people attitudes and ego’s . I listed my observations , yet named no names !
simply stated the obvious and tossed it out like a light jab or man sau
ironically certain parties must have found truth in what I said be it guilt or it just struck to close to home [ they bit on the first jab and over reacted ] a very emotional response and a sure fire sign of a lack of skill and self discipline
lesson 2 once you established the guy is jumpy , fire a few more random shots give give him room he will show you all his ‘‘go to’’ hands nervous reaction right away
at his point you can read him like a book , you can stay out in long range and just pot shot him to death [ cause him to go all over committed and rush in way to telegraphic ] terminate him or just slip back out in long range and keep playing the game
eventually it’s just fun watching them trip over themselves in desperation . see the spirit leave there eyes and the almost begging to be dropped just to end it
some times they try and get all ****y to bring there dieing spirit back and turn the emotional tide on you , but any one that has been around long enough knows it just that last wild jerking a person makes before the pass out from a nice choke
when your on the outside watching the show it’s just interesting to see how people react , thank your for participating in my little experiment
even by listing no names some can not resist like a moth to a flame
simply and sadly predictable
I’m bored with this peace out who knows maybe one day the dog will catch it’s tail
no, she’s gonna find peace at a particularly inviting oasis in the desert. all you passers-by: don’t stop longer than it takes to fill your canteen.
ernie sounds like the kind of ‘scientist’/‘psychologist’/‘history of pschology’ major who’s either been there or sent folks for a nice little vacation… :eek:
To whom it may concern (you now who you are). I am my own person, not a puppet. No one tells me what to do, think, write, speak etc…
As far as Redmond is concerned, I have never really met the guy, put him down or slandered him. I have talked to him on the phone. For all you doubters out there. “I WingChunTao-Francois” will be teaching Phil classical guitar lessons soon. Do you think that if I have a problem with him that I would teach him guitar? You can ask the man himself. I don’t care about all your politics people. Leave me out of this mess. What I do care about is Wing Chun, Music and life. I post from factual evidence not personal attacks like some here do. Do you know what Ad Hominem means? “attacking ones person or character not the argument at hand”. This is done when one has a weak argument and is very typical from a critiacal thinking standpoint. You should be shure that your arguments deal with the facts. I have seen more slandering and BS from you guys more than anyone else. Just because I side with this person or that person on an issue doesn’t mean anything. I look at the facts that are presented then see how to best put them into words, especially in a non-slanderous, demeaning manner. So, you should get your facts straight before you start accusing people of slander or anything else.
P.S. Just in case you all forgot, the argument was, someone said, “Wing Chun won’t last another 20 years in its present form”. If that is the argument then how did you get so far off track. Stick to the facts not fantasy.
“I WingChunTao-Francois” will be teaching Phil classical guitar lessons soon.
It’s good that at least someone in Detroit is prepared to deal with Phil Redmond rationally.
I have seen more slandering and BS from you guys more than anyone else.
I think most intelligent readers of the forum have seen from where the recent vituperation originated, and will draw their own conclusions, as you suggest, from the evidence which has passed before their eyes.
“Wing Chun won’t last another 20 years in its present form”
That was the argument on another thread, not this one. I think it will continue as a TCMA. Whether people choose to follow it exclusively or train in more of the rich variety of other disciplines out there is a personal choice.
Francois is correct. I will be taking classical guitar lessons from him this week. I even brought him a Bomba y Plena CD back from my trip to Puerto Rico so he could stay in touch with his Latin roots.
PR
hey… isn’t that a classic ‘history of psychology’ student quote? victims of puppeteers. marianettes the lot of them. can’t even come up with an original way to say: “yeah, i was a scientology dope. but when i figured out what the deal was it was too late. the puppeteers had ruined my life by making me desire something that was thier desire alone and they relived it through me.”
they say exactly the same quote for independance as all the others whom are affected like them.
as an anthropolgist this is one of the key quotes i use to identify the disaffected.
