Interesting kung fu training from Colombia

[QUOTE=Hardwork108;1056268]That made me laugh out loud…LOL!

Frost is also one of the reasons why “kung fu-clueless knucklehead MMA-ist”, is such a popular term here in the forums…;)[/QUOTE]

I think this thread also proved you are clueless about “real” kung fu.

LOL this is hilarious someone just PM this to me as said by knifefighter form another thread

Quote: from me
Frost on the other hand just told the forum on the “columbian thread” that martial artists should wear boxing gloves.. LOL I kid you not!

this was knife response

That would be a good point that he made. MMA fighters who don’t fight with boxing gloves train with them because it’s the most effective way to train punching.

OK now are knife and frost twins? or are they the same person… there is no way 2 people in their right mind would suggest that martial artists should train with boxing gloves on, but then tell the board everyday that they train for REAL combat!
could you imagine gettign into a fight and saying wait I need my boxing gloves! ROTFL

[QUOTE=EarthDragon;1056279]LOL this is hilarious someone just PM this to me as said by knifefighter form another thread

Quote: from me
Frost on the other hand just told the forum on the “columbian thread” that martial artists should wear boxing gloves.. LOL I kid you not!

this was knife response

OK now are knife and frost twins? or are they the same person… there is no way 2 people in their right mind would suggest that martial artists should train with boxing gloves on, but then tell the board everyday that they train for REAL combat!
could you imagine gettign into a fight and saying wait I need my boxing gloves! ROTFL[/QUOTE]

LOL @ the still pretending not to read my posts. Yeah, people are sending you emails of my posts.

Earth to Dragon- Here’s an announcement: Training with boxing gloves & headgear is how modern training does hard, full contact training for striking with the head as a target.

Somebody “email” this guy and tell him thanks for proving, once again, how clueless he is.

[QUOTE=EarthDragon;1056275]hardwork,

he actually suggested wearing boxing gloves!!!

yea thats what I want to learn how to fight in, so next time I need to grab my opponet to trap lock seize or throw, I cant becuse I have 20oz of padded puffy things laced onto my hands WTF is wrong with this dude?

I corect my students all the time to fight with thier hands open. you only form a fist right before impact, even my 5 years olds know this.[/QUOTE]

Lets both us look at the positive side of all of this and appreciate the fact that the MMA community in this forum never fails to provide us with plenty of laughs. :wink:

So true.
OK gotta run, going to put some mittens on and tie nymph flies for fishing tomorrow.

This makes as much sense to me as wearing boxing gloves, theres just somethings that you need your hands open for.

Im sure if anyone that does ground fighting would be happy to be on the floor batting away if you had to make someone submit wearing boxing gloves, or are you supposed to fight stand up with gloves so you can punch and train FOR REAL againt a resisting opponent and then when you get a take down , you stop and untie them and then start to fight agian? lets submit this idea to the UFC,

[QUOTE=EarthDragon;1056467]So true.
OK gotta run, going to put some mittens on and tie nymph flies for fishing tomorrow.

This makes as much sense to me as wearing boxing gloves, theres just somethings that you need your hands open for.[/QUOTE]

Either people put gloves on and go full contact, or they don’t do much, if any full contact.

It’s pretty obvious which camp you fall into.

[QUOTE=EarthDragon;1056467]So true.
OK gotta run, going to put some mittens on and tie nymph flies for fishing tomorrow.

This makes as much sense to me as wearing boxing gloves, theres just somethings that you need your hands open for.

Im sure if anyone that does ground fighting would be happy to be on the floor batting away if you had to make someone submit wearing boxing gloves, or are you supposed to fight stand up with gloves so you can punch and train FOR REAL againt a resisting opponent and then when you get a take down , you stop and untie them and then start to fight agian? lets submit this idea to the UFC,[/QUOTE]

so what? you let people punch you in the head without gloves? how else do you train full contact punches to the head? it doesnt have to be 16oz… even if you just use 4 or 6… you wont last long taking full shots to the head with no gloves… and if you train hard with quality opponents, you will be getting hit in the head…

[QUOTE=EarthDragon;1056248]frost frost frost,
I really hope your kidding here…

Ok so let me get this straight… you trying to tell MA/kung fu/karate etc etc guys they should wear boxing gloves???

LMAO, your the reason wanker is such a popular term in U.K

next we can tell golfers to wear helmets so if the ball bounces off a tree they wont sustain injury.
I dont knwo what lack of understanding you have of MA but last time I checked we need to use our HANDS![/QUOTE]

lol at least i’m not called a liar and fraud :slight_smile:

[QUOTE=Syn7;1056494]so what? you let people punch you in the head without gloves? how else do you train full contact punches to the head? it doesnt have to be 16oz… even if you just use 4 or 6… you wont last long taking full shots to the head with no gloves… and if you train hard with quality opponents, you will be getting hit in the head…[/QUOTE]

Bingo! And then they wonder why we give them a hard time.

Can’t wait for his spin on this one. More than likely, he’s simply going to avoid it.

[QUOTE=EarthDragon;1056279]LOL this is hilarious someone just PM this to me as said by knifefighter form another thread

Quote: from me
Frost on the other hand just told the forum on the “columbian thread” that martial artists should wear boxing gloves.. LOL I kid you not!

this was knife response

OK now are knife and frost twins? or are they the same person… there is no way 2 people in their right mind would suggest that martial artists should train with boxing gloves on, but then tell the board everyday that they train for REAL combat!
could you imagine gettign into a fight and saying wait I need my boxing gloves! ROTFL[/QUOTE]

not only do you having a reading comprehension problem AND an inability to tell the truth but you also seem to have a memory problem, i have never said i train for real combat i said i train MMA for fun and have competed in grappling,

Now lets see i have trained with the following pro fighters on a regular basis over the years: paul daley, andre winner, dan hardy, jimmy wallhead, (to name a few)…can you guess how they do the majority of their sparring…can you guess how Ross’s guys on here do the majority of their sparring for both sanda AND MMA…

Its pointless holding a conversation with you because you really do seem to have a very low IQ but please tell me how all the pros you train do their sparring?

[QUOTE=Knifefighter;1056555]Bingo! And then they wonder why we give them a hard time.

Can’t wait for his spin on this one. More than likely, he’s simply going to avoid it.[/QUOTE]

you mean like he avoided asking for your BJJ cert when others posted how legit you were?

[QUOTE=Frost;1056552]lol at least i’m not called a liar and fraud :)[/QUOTE]

Of course not. Who would dare accuse an MMA knucklehead who uses Olympic Weight training to train his Internals, a liar and a fraud? LOL!

Man, you come straight out of a cook book! LOL,LOL,LOL!

sny7

so what? you let people punch you in the head without gloves? how else do you train full contact punches to the head? it doesnt have to be 16oz… even if you just use 4 or 6… you wont last long taking full shots to the head with no gloves… and if you train hard with quality opponents, you will be getting hit in the head…

please dont jump on this band wagon too brother, you dont want to be compared and lumped together with knifefighter and frost do you?

its not boxing, you dont train with boxing gloves.nor do you train wearing boxing boots, how are you supposed to fight with your hands in boxing gloves? what reason would you train MMA or any martial arts with boxing gloves on? you cant grab, lock throw seize nothing…this is the stupidist thing I have heard on here and people say some pretty stupid things.

you train is how you fight, you dont punch people in the head there are plenty of softer spots on the body then the skull. now open finger harbinger padded knuclke gloves… yes i wear those as well as a mouth guard from fightdentist.com and a cup. but boxing gloves??? hahaha this shows the level of skilled martail artists on here. I give up

frost

lol at least i’m not called a liar and fraud

LOl by whom you ross and knfiefighter? 3 people i wouldt **** on if they were on fire and you think for a second I care? your post is reminsant of a littel girls response saying … I know you are but what am I? this is your best response? at least your not called a liar? ok good night buddy sleep well.
dotn forget to put on your boxing gloves before you pratice martil arts, you dont want to hurt those pretty hands.

hardwork

Of course not. Who would dare accuse an MMA knucklehead who uses Olympic Weight training to train his Internals, a liar and a fraud? LOL!

Man, you come straight out of a cook book! LOL,LOL,LOL!

I think I come on here more to read what frost has to say each day,than check the threads, its gets stupider and stupider. its like those morning funny cartoon saying on the calander to keep a smile on your face all day.

the guy trains grappling but wears boxing gloves! WTF? ohh man you cant make this stuff up

[QUOTE=EarthDragon;1056563]sny7

please dont jump on this band wagon too brother, you dont want to be compared and lumped together with knifefighter and frost do you?

its not boxing, you dont train with boxing gloves.nor do you train wearing boxing boots, how are you supposed to fight with your hands in boxing gloves? for what reason would you train MMA or any martial arts with boxing gloves on? you cant grab, lock throw seize nothing…this is the stupidist thing I have heard on here and people say some pretty stupid things.
you train is how you fight, you dont punch people in the head there are plenty of softer spots on the body then the skull. now open finger harbinger padded knuclke gloves… yes i wear those as well as a mouth guard from fightdentist.com and a cup. but boxing gloves??? hahaha this shows the level of skilled martail artists on here. I give up

frost

LOl by whom you ross and knfiefighter? 3 people i wouldt **** on if they were on fire and you think for a second I care? your post is reminsant of a littel girls response saying … I know you are but what am I? this is your best response? at least your not called a liar? ok good night buddy sleep well.
dotn forget to put on your boxing gloves before you pratice martil arts, you dont want to hurt those pretty hands.[/QUOTE]

the part i underlined shows exactly why you are clueless :slight_smile:

[QUOTE=EarthDragon;1056567]hardwork

I think I come on here more to read what frost has to say each day,than check the threads, its gets stupider and stupider. its like those morning funny cartoon saying on the calander to keep a smile on your face all day.

the guy trains grappling but wears boxing gloves! WTF? ohh man you cant make this stuff up[/QUOTE]

and this part shows why you have the IQ of a small child and extremly poor comprehension skills :slight_smile:

your right Frosty, I should start wearing boxing gloves when I train that will make all the difference in the world, you can at any time admit you said something wrong and absolutly proposteous and take it back.
oh your talking about the typo? its fixed

But if you dont can you pleaseeeeeeee post a clip oif you training your boxing /grappling style and tap some out with these everlast bloxing gloves on pleaseeeeeeeee… Im beggin you. Do you wear boxing boots on oyur feet so you can kick epoel;l without injuries to your toes? or do you wear basebal cleats for that? come on kid its all I want for Xmas

[QUOTE=EarthDragon;1056575]your right Frosty, I should start wearing boxing gloves when I train that will make all the difference in the world, you can at any time admit you said something wrong and absolutly proposteous and take it back.
oh your talking about the typo? its fixed

But if you dont can you pleaseeeeeeee post a clip oif you training your boxing /grappling style and tap some out with these everlast bloxing gloves on pleaseeeeeeeee… Im beggin you. Do you wear boxing boots on oyur feet so you can kick epoel;l without injuries to your toes? or do you wear basebal cleats for that? come on kid its all I want for Xmas[/QUOTE]

Ok I could post clips like that but every gym with any MMA training posted from it shows there guys using boxing gloves for the hard sparring. So I tell you what you post clips of just one MMA club not using boxing gloves in sparring but instead bare hands and I’ll agree with you, hell pos one that just uses small MMA gloves and no boxing gloves and ill be impressed

out of interest have you ever watched ANY ultimate fighter shows, what do they use the most…MMA gloves or boxing gloves or bare hands

I’ll tell you what lets take a quick poll, everyone here who has trained MMA please state which of the following you train with the most, and if you have actually fought or have guys in your gym that fight which do they use the most, and which you use the most in heavy contact sparring

  1. Boxing gloves,
    b) 8/10 oz MMA sparring gloves (the bigger padded ones)
    c) 4oz MMA gloves
    or
    d) Bare knuckle,

I’ll go first, in sparring the break down is probably 50/50 between MMA gloves and boxing gloves.

But almost all the hard contact sparring is done with boxing gloves both standing and on the ground, when MMA gloves are used we normally go much lighter and are more technical, obviously the boxing gloves limit grappling and the MMA gloves don’t allow as much contact as is sometimes needed but then all good MMA gyms know how to train around this problem

Anyone else want to chip in?

MMA, the methods it employs in it’s sparring etc, is not the only way.

There are a lot of people who simply do it bare knuckle.

I would say to wear a cup is a good idea, and a mouthguard, but are gloves always necessary? or headgear? NO.

sparring is not competition, it’s fnding gaps and sealing them, looking for holes and going into them.

sparring is not competitive fighting, perhaps that is why so many people do it poorly? Wrong intention expressed.

anyway, mma in the states is fairly pussified compared to Muay Thai as found in Thailand or Burmese boxing.

mma has unfortunately gotten itself a fratboy image. The elite of the sport are interesting to watch for sure, but the fans are mobbish really and quite often uncouth, ill mannered, tactless, belligerent and well, what you see here when you take a look at some of the posts.

Tell me, how does mma train double bladed weapons? What does it offer for throwing weapons? Situational awareness?

I mean, outside of getting in a ring and fighting competitively, what does an mma path offer a person?

It’s not rbsd, it’s mma and it is trained specifically towards the ruleset it uses in competition.

Nothing against that, but if it’s not your goal to get into a ring and fight, why bother with mma? there isn’t anything else offered by it. Is there? I mean what else is there to it that gives it depth and superiority over any other martial art practice?

[QUOTE=EarthDragon;1056567]hardwork

I think I come on here more to read what frost has to say each day,than check the threads, its gets stupider and stupider. its like those morning funny cartoon saying on the calander to keep a smile on your face all day.[/quote]

True. I will always be thankful to the MMA crowd here in the forum, for all the laughs they have provided me over the years.

[QUOTE=EarthDragon;1056567]the guy trains grappling but wears boxing gloves! WTF? ohh man you cant make this stuff up[/QUOTE]

I sometimes believe that these MMA-ists’ parents used to make them wear boxing gloves at night in bed, in order not to play with themselves during the night. I don’t think that this worked either because most of them ended up in this forum and have been participating in a “jerk off” MMA orgy (pardon my French), for as long as I can remember. LOL!