If you have a spare minute, SIGN THIS PETITION

[QUOTE=monkeyfoot;941282]I recognise that this post was worded extremely badly and I do apologize if I offended anyone.

If you haven’t already signed this petition, then you **** well should!

I was in China for 6 months and came across numerous ‘markets’ that showed China doesn’t give two ****s about animal rights (or anyones/anythings rights come to think of it). I saw lots and lots of caged dogs and other similarly distressing things, but never even knew it was commonplace to SKIN DOGS ALIVE!

Its absolutely HIDEOUS behaviour. More and more I am coming closer to hating Chinas ways, which is a complete irony as I am fascinated by many aspects of their culture. Seeing this sort of treatment to animals makes me want to quit Kung Fu and quit anything else that promotes this sick country.

Evil people…wolf in sheeps clothing!

www.animalsaviours.org[/QUOTE]

You do know that there are people out there that considers animals in general as food don’t ya.

This post just shows ignorance of other peoples culture and an attempt to “make them more like us”

You may find it repulsive cause of the culture you are in, but this is not your culture. Quit imposing your values on them. Live and let live.

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Behaviours like this really **** me the hell off.

[QUOTE=xcakid;941963]You do know that there are people out there that considers animals in general as food don’t ya.

This post just shows ignorance of other peoples culture and an attempt to “make them more like us”

You may find it repulsive cause of the culture you are in, but this is not your culture. Quit imposing your values on them. Live and let live.

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Behaviours like this really **** me the hell off.[/QUOTE]

OMG another one!!! Please re-read this thread, and understand what we are actually talking about.

Find it repulsive because of the culture I live in?? Are you nuts? We’re talking about skinning animals alive and leaving them dying in pain; this has NOTHING to do with coming from a different culture.
In fact, I think you demonstrate YOUR ignorance as you’re too stupid to bother reading this thread before posting up your bull-**** irrelevant response!

David. I really do not know what your issue is here and why you still continue to act like an aggressive **** towards me. I have apologized for any misunderstandings, and I will work towards getting more factual information about this video. I don’t know if you find it amusing, or get some warped pleasure from criticising EVERYTHING I say, either way its hardly a commendable attitude to adopt.

I’ll step up, on any day, face to face or in a forum, I use my own Name, I am who I am.

I think you actually have the anger issues ‘mate’. You obviously suffer from some deep issues of inadequacy (perhaps) to the point where you feel you have exert this air of bull**** dominance on other forum members to make yourself feel ‘powerful’. Great, but this is the internet…its real life that counts mate :rolleyes:
(And funnily enough someone 2 posts down just commented on this in so many words). Its just reinforcing my opinion that you are one of those losers who sits all day circulating ‘his forums’ gaining his internet kudos from his other little forum-cronies. LAME! Do you live in the basement of your parents house by any chance?

You are still back tracking with your “animals are treated worse in the east” and that is utter crap on a pile of crap

Yes I am still on with that crap David. I’d be interested to know if you have ever travelled extensively throughout China, or even been there for that matter? Obviously you must have, otherwise you’d have to be pretty stupid to think your ‘uninformed’ opinion holds any weight in this conversation. That would be ignorance would it not?

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[QUOTE=Yao Sing;941285]You haven’t seen the roasted dog for sale on the street corner or the cats (pets) in cages next to the chickens (food) in cages?

Did you ever wonder where the meat in your meals comes from when you can travel around the country and not see a single cow?
:D:D:D[/QUOTE]

Lol, Dog meat! My personal favorite dog meat hot pot! Awesome :slight_smile:

Only problem is where I live if you start bbq a dog, before you know it the animal rights activists and the cops get involved. Just for eating a food source, doesn’t make much sense. But there are some cute dogs I wouldn’t eat either.

On a side note something else worth trying:

  • Snake soup, awesome!

[QUOTE=monkeyfoot;941986]OMG another one!!! Please re-read this thread, and understand what we are actually talking about.

Find it repulsive because of the culture I live in?? Are you nuts? We’re talking about skinning animals alive and leaving them dying in pain; this has NOTHING to do with coming from a different culture.
In fact, I think you demonstrate YOUR ignorance as you’re too stupid to bother reading this thread before posting up your bull-**** irrelevant response!

David. I really do not know what your issue is here and why you still continue to act like an aggressive **** towards me. I have apologized for any misunderstandings, and I will work towards getting more factual information about this video. I don’t know if you find it amusing, or get some warped pleasure from criticising EVERYTHING I say, either way its hardly a commendable attitude to adopt.

I think you actually have the anger issues ‘mate’. You obviously suffer from some deep issues of inadequacy (perhaps) to the point where you feel you have exert this air of bull**** dominance on other forum members to make yourself feel ‘powerful’. Great, but this is the internet…its real life that counts mate :rolleyes:
(And funnily enough someone 2 posts down just commented on this in so many words). Its just reinforcing my opinion that you are one of those losers who sits all day circulating ‘his forums’ gaining his internet kudos from his other little forum-cronies. LAME! Do you live in the basement of your parents house by any chance?

Yes I am still on with that crap David. I’d be interested to know if you have ever travelled extensively throughout China, or even been there for that matter? Obviously you must have, otherwise you’d have to be pretty stupid to think your ‘uninformed’ opinion holds any weight in this conversation. That would be ignorance would it not?

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lol, you’re a passive aggressive too! wonderful.

You don’t understand why I take issue with you? I don’t take issue with you. It’s what you are posting and what you are saying in your thread. I really don’t know you nor do I care who you are.

You are like some stupid cow who can’t figure out why people are put off by them when they’ve just trashed something and stand their dumbly. Oblivious to the harm they cause and the malice they put forth.

forums don’t give anyone power over anyone else you idiot. they are places of discourse. You made your statement, I called you ignorant for making it, period. I still think you’re ignorant and I think you’re an even bigger idiot for continually trying to justify your nonsense and trying to dipsy doodle into the minutia of fur vs food and continuing with your diatribe about how animals are treated worse in the east than in the west.

Crying and whining about what I say to you takes you even further from correcting yourself on the matter.

You are still wrong and what you said is wrong.

Trying to deflect your error into a rant about how badly I’ve treated you is weak.

:rolleyes:

lol, you’re a passive aggressive too! wonderful.

You don’t understand why I take issue with you? I don’t take issue with you. It’s what you are posting and what you are saying in your thread. I really don’t know you nor do I care who you are.

You are like some stupid cow who can’t figure out why people are put off by them when they’ve just trashed something and stand their dumbly. Oblivious to the harm they cause and the malice they put forth.

forums don’t give anyone power over anyone else you idiot. they are places of discourse. You made your statement, I called you ignorant for making it, period. I still think you’re ignorant and I think you’re an even bigger idiot for continually trying to justify your nonsense and trying to dipsy doodle into the minutia of fur vs food and continuing with your diatribe about how animals are treated worse in the east than in the west.

Crying and whining about what I say to you takes you even further from correcting yourself on the matter.

You are still wrong and what you said is wrong.

Trying to deflect your error into a rant about how badly I’ve treated you is weak.

Okay. You still have not answered my last question. My statement that animals are viewed in a very different light in China in comparrison to the west is based on my own personal ‘real life’ observations of the country and the people. I would really like to know what you are basing your argument on?

Monkeyfoot is right on that last post. They aren’t viewed the same as westeners.

[QUOTE=Drake;942227]Monkeyfoot is right on that last post. They aren’t viewed the same as westeners.[/QUOTE]

Which ones?

That culturally, the Chinese don’t see animals the same as westerners. And by westerners, I mean modern ones. Us westerners held a similar view of animals not too long ago.

I remember someone (chinese) telling me that they don’t eat just any dog but a special breed of dog used only for food. Other dogs are kept as pets.

So it’s not like they’re chowing down on poodle and such. It’s food dog, not pet dog.

I think it was in Zhengzhou which is where I saw the street corner roast dog. I don’t know if they’re skinned alive though, didn’t ask about that but I do know the snakes is skinned alive before they prepare it.

[QUOTE=Drake;942283]That culturally, the Chinese don’t see animals the same as westerners.[/QUOTE]Are you saying that the Chinese (all billion of them) see animals as higher life-forms than Westerners or that we are lower than animals?! :confused: :eek: :smiley:

I sure hope they see us different to animals!

[QUOTE=monkeyfoot;942221]Okay. You still have not answered my last question. My statement that animals are viewed in a very different light in China in comparrison to the west is based on my own personal ‘real life’ observations of the country and the people. I would really like to know what you are basing your argument on?[/QUOTE]

So you’ve personally been in contact with 1.3 billion people and intimately know their views on the world and animals and what they should be treated like and how they should be used?

fantastic. You just can’t get off your racist and myopic horse it seems. speaking of horses, how did you seem them treated there? How about Oxen?

I suggest you just stay away from China and perhaps go find a nice pet fantasy land that would be more suitable to your pollyanna world view.

And now, personal observations, with pics!

  1. http://www.ourorient.com/articles/men/pets.htm

  2. http://www.daylife.com/photo/05l4eyp5598aj

  3. http://www.daylife.com/photo/04bE5ox5DL286

  4. http://marketplace.publicradio.org/display/web/2008/08/19/china_pets/

  5. http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/asia/article2182858.ece

[QUOTE=Mr Punch;942377]Are you saying that the Chinese (all billion of them) see animals as higher life-forms than Westerners or that we are lower than animals?! :confused: :eek: :smiley:

I sure hope they see us different to animals![/QUOTE]

Uh… no, that’s not what I was saying…

[QUOTE=Drake;942395]Uh… no, that’s not what I was saying…[/QUOTE]:confused:

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:smiley: