[QUOTE=bawang;1289257]western boxing is older than hung ga[/QUOTE]
Really? wow :eek:
[QUOTE=HungGarEgg;1289304]Really? wow :eek:[/QUOTE]
Yes, Olympic sport: Since 688 B.C.E
That’s almost 1200 years before even Shaolin!:eek:
Among Judo’s most basic, yet greatest aspects, breakfalls, can be life (or body) savers in themselves. Just this morning, on my early-morning walk, I tripped and fell. In the semi-darkness, the nasty bump in the street I tripped over was nearly invisible. I walk at a brisk pace, and when I tripped, the bump caught both of my feet and I fell straight forward and down, FAST. My body instinctively did a Judo front fall, almost perfectly, in spite of not having practiced it in decades. No injuries except for slightly skinned/bloody palms, skinned knees, and a slight elbow bruise. And most of that wouldn’t have happened if that paved street hadn’t had an extremely rough, ‘rocky’ textured surface. As it was, I got right back up and continued on, barely missing a beat. A wrong fall would have possibly caused serious injuries. I was really glad that nobody saw that. :o
Even if something like that happens only once during your lifetime, it’s well worth the benefits of having trained how to safely fall, regardless of your system or style. Not all aspects of self-protection involve fighting or being attacked by other people or animals.
[QUOTE=bawang;1289257]western boxing is older than hung ga[/QUOTE]
Well, I would agree with most western arts have a longer written history. That may mean they are older or it may mean, other places either did not record things in writing or glyphs or those things were lost.
But if I go by what you suggest then yes, western arts are the older arts. Also, Martial Arts is a western term.
[QUOTE=boxerbilly;1289579]Well, I would agree with most western arts have a longer written history. That may mean they are older or it may mean, other places either did not record things in writing or glyphs or those things were lost.
But if I go by what you suggest then yes, western arts are the older arts. Also, Martial Arts is a western term.[/QUOTE]
hung ga was literally made up out of thin air in 1900
[QUOTE=boxerbilly;1289579]Well, I would agree with most western arts have a longer written history. That may mean they are older or it may mean, other places either did not record things in writing or glyphs or those things were lost.
But if I go by what you suggest then yes, western arts are the older arts. Also, Martial Arts is a western term.[/QUOTE]
your karate is older than hung ga
[QUOTE=bawang;1289604]your karate is older than hung ga[/QUOTE]
Everything is a lie.
And I do not know how far Hung Gar goes back. My Karate. ITF . Isshin Ryu and Shaolin Kempo is not even 100 years old heck maybe 50-60 years for one ? I don’t care to count.
Okay, ITF is Shotokan. So I guess we could say that is is maybe 100 years old.
and it is literally still older than hung ga
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[QUOTE=boxerbilly;1289605]Everything is a lie.
And I do not know how far Hung Gar goes back. My Karate. ITF . Isshin Ryu and Shaolin Kempo is not even 100 years old heck maybe 50-60 years for one ? I don’t care to count.
Okay, ITF is Shotokan. So I guess we could say that is is maybe 100 years old.[/QUOTE]
Isshinryu was founded in 1956. Most classical Karate was systemized, in the 1930’s. You could stretch to the 1920’s if you really tried.
Modern Hung Ga was arranged about 1870.
I have trained a few years in Hung Ga and continue to do so. My branch decends from Lam Sai Wing. I can honestly say this is something I have considered because in the culture from which kung-fu comes from. Most are suggested or pushed into a system because of body type and mentality. It works towards are strength’s but doesn’t negate or remove the weaknesses.
Hung Ga I enjoy immensely but I also see that it doesn’t improve my speed or agility. If it existed I would do a Snake system with high amount of panther to compensate the balance.
I myself will be looking at a ng mui system to give me more balance or choy li fut to focus more speed with leopard emphasis.
The footwok and agility are all there, you only need to see it and extract it from the forms and drill.
The speed is there as well.
As my Si-Hing once admonished me, “don’t simply practice the form. Use the form to train your gung-fu.”
If you want speed, train quickness. If you want agility, train it.
Hung-Gar has shuffles, step throughs, jumps, hops, etc.
If your teacher hasn’t taught you these concepts and methods, then ask him.
Or…