Dont mean to start anything. But how would a Xingyi Fighter fair against Baguazhang. How would they handle a fight like that
We got our little bag of tricks, dear Leonidas:D
…don’t think Hsing I has ALWAYS a straight pattern
Does Hsing-Yi use a wooden dummy at all?
What are the animal forms supposed to teach the student?
Young Apprentice:
Nope. Hsing-I doesn’t have the wooden dummy in his training. Depending on the school, working with sandbags and/or trees is emphasized.
Sevenstar:
The animal forms teach you how to use the five forces (the Five Elements) in every possible application. For example the Tiger Form (A double palm strike) teaches you how to use the splitting fist (A single palm strike) with both hands, stepping in a 45° angle. There are tons of applications in each animal form. The Five elements of Hsing I, and its animal forms don’t teach you how to apply fixed techniques, but how to use the different forces and mechanics of the body in a fight.
You know that answer wasn’t good enough for me man. What forces/mechanics does each animal teach?
yah bido are the 17 forces within most kung fu
or can you look at it like that like is pounding fist,have to do with the action of the center line moving forward,or is it the opening/wiping"left hand"shuttingdown"rpunch hand" of the fist-
what i meant about center line moving forward say the pounding is heavier then the firingarrow fist "cant remember the dang name.
7you sure are a ****y *******
You know that answer wasn’t good enough for me man.
just cuz you can do that kick doesnt mean we cant kick your ass
Maybe not, but I got a nice shiny .357 that says it doesn’t matter 
LOL. Okay…
It’s a little bit complicated, but let’s start with the basics:
The Five Elements teach the applications of five forces, or “jings”:
- Pi (Splitting) The force goes down in a circular pattern (as an ax splitting)
- Tswan (Drilling) The force goes up, like a spring of water.
- Beng (Crushing). The force follows a straight pattern
-Pao (Pounding). Sudden, exploding force, like a ball shot from a cannon
-Heng (Crossing). Circular pattern sideways. Like a ball rolling
The five are short forms, not unlike boxing drills (jab, uppercut, etc.) That you repeat over and over again.When you practice the five elements, you don’t only practice techniques; they are excercises and drills, so you can learn and understand the intention and application of the different jings, along with the mechanics involved in each movement
The power of Hsing-I comes from a relaxed state (Allowing you to transfer all your body weight to your arm when you strike) a very good, firm stance, proper breathing and combined posture.-
When you combine two or more of these forces, you got the 12 animals. The animal forms expand your knowledge regarding the application of the Five Elements, and the intentions.
As you know, a detailed explanation of the mechanics involved in each animal form is impossible at the time, and I’ll need pictures for a better understanding, but I’ll do what I can, explaining techniques from some animals:
Tiger: Involves a double palm strike in a 45° degree angle (Good for stepping outside the opponents body, and strike the back/kidneys). You must learn how to use your whole body weight to transfer it to your strike. (Using the splitting force)
Monkey: Consists of quick steps and palm attacks, in a slapping fashion. Again, at the time of your attack, your shoulder drops, transfering the weight of your body to your palm; the strike is pretty wild. Those monkey slaps must not be underestimated. (Imagine a beotch slap with some 100+ lbs added.) (Splitting force, too)
Bear: A backfist with the fist turned, to the back of the neck. (Again, splitting force)
Horse: A straight fist to the chest, with the other hand supporting (a combination of Crushing/Pounding)
Lizard: A claw hand (three fingers curled), to the side of the face (torso of the opponent) (Crossing force)
Man..that was a lot of writing …
I’ll get some pics of each animal form to explain you better, if you want. Shoot me a PM and I’ll get back to you as soon as possible
More Images
Ok, I will make a better picture of the use of the five fists. (Note that the examples I’ll give are not 100% accurate…Hsing-I has its own way to move)
-Splitting: Like the slap that is used to break boards.
- Drilling: Like an uppercut, but coming out from the center, and twisting your wrist at the moment of the impact, to uproot the opponent.
-Crushing. A straight punch, with the knuckles turned sideways
-Pounding. Strike with a straight punch, and your body recoils, like when you shoot a gun.
-Crossing: Like a outward block, but twisting your wrist.
These are not exact images, but you’ll get a hint.
mechanically speaking, what’s the difference bewteen crushing and pounding?
you beat me to it
Crushing strikes and follows up (The ancient say: It’s like and arrow…it gets to the target and sinks into it). You strike, and your fist goes all the way in.
Pounding strikes the surface. Gets to the target, and comes back with speed. (Like I said above: When you strike, you get to the target and your body kicks back, like when shooting a gun).
Chicken and Snake look awesome. 
thanks bido
hey star you really packn
i cant wait to start goin to firing ranges just to help my rappn
2 questions
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With 5 different jings, there would be 4 + 3+ 2 + 1 = 10 combinations of two distinct jings, independant of the order of the two. If differences in order are taken into account, there would be 20 variations. How does that play out in the 12 animal styles? Are there any two animals that share the same jings? I’m just asking in case somebody happens to know off the top of their head.
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Slightly OT: Remember 5 - element style from the movie “The Ghost-faced Killer” ? It looked a little like Hsing-Yi to me, any relation?
-FJ
ttt for an answer
what does ttt mean
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my xingyi knowledge is limited but in the most simpliest terms,
splitting fist is basically power from up to down
drilling fist is basically power from down to up
crushing fist is forward and back
pounding fist is inside to out
crossing fist is out to in
my $0.02