MMA fight with MMA rules
to beat them you must train MMA
never forgoet chinese barehand martial arts was mainly used to train hand eye cordination for weapons, most of it is a inferior figting style
I like lamp
[QUOTE=GreenCloudCLF;935790]I like lamp[/QUOTE]
Did you eat the chocolate squirrel?
[QUOTE=MightyB;935801]Did you eat the chocolate squirrel?[/QUOTE]
Covered in raspberry raccoon.
[QUOTE=MasterKiller;935559]MMA guys that actually fight don’t release the hold until the ref steps in.[/QUOTE]
This is true.
[QUOTE=goju;935574]oh and its harder to submit someone if they are really flexible certain bjj sumbissions dont even work agaisnt a limber person[/QUOTE]
This is not.
[QUOTE=1bad65;935839]This is true.
This is not.[/QUOTE]
Actually the 2nd one is true. There’s a guy at the gym that you just can’t tap with certain subs. But he’s a jits guy…not learning jits is stupid.
[QUOTE=WinterPalm;935849]Actually the 2nd one is true. There’s a guy at the gym that you just can’t tap with certain subs. But he’s a jits guy…not learning jits is stupid.[/QUOTE]
I would wager a lot of that has to do with him just knowing how to position/control his body, or people not doing the technique exactly correct.
While being flexible helps, and certainly can buy you some time, it’s not going to save you against someone who knows how to perform the submissions properly.
For example, I have very flexible shoulders and it is very difficult for someone to tap me with an Americana, mostly because people get carried away trying to crank the arm and forget to slide it down low before attempting the submission. But, when done properly, my flexibility is neutralized.
you grab their protein shake and run
just like in this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hzwr9kRLH0
[QUOTE=WinterPalm;935849]Actually the 2nd one is true. There’s a guy at the gym that you just can’t tap with certain subs. But he’s a jits guy…not learning jits is stupid.[/QUOTE]
or you could say that it’s actually harder to submit people than you would think. Especially motivated and trained people who are doing their best to submit you back.
[QUOTE=MightyB;935871]or you could say that it’s actually harder to submit people than you would think. Especially motivated and trained people who are doing their best to submit you back.[/QUOTE]
This is true. But I’ve seen people bend this guy’s arm like right around to some crazy angles.
But yeah, flexibility isn’t the be all, end all.
[QUOTE=MasterKiller;935854]I would wager a lot of that has to do with him just knowing how to position/control his body, or people not doing the technique exactly correct.
While being flexible helps, and certainly can buy you some time, it’s not going to save you against someone who knows how to perform the submissions properly.
For example, I have very flexible shoulders and it is very difficult for someone to tap me with an Americana, mostly because people get carried away trying to crank the arm and forget to slide it down low before attempting the submission. But, when done properly, my flexibility is neutralized.[/QUOTE]
For sure. Often though, if you have to over extend yourself to apply certain submissions due to abnormal flexibility, it can leave you open to sweeps and such.
That said, to the TS, there is no such thing as MMA guys…just martial artists trying to cover all their bases in a way as best as possible.
[QUOTE=1bad65;935839]This is true.
This is not.[/QUOTE]
actually it is i train mma and many moves odnt work on double jointed or flexible people while they are easy to apply on stiff folks
even gene lebell noted this
[QUOTE=MasterKiller;935854]I would wager a lot of that has to do with him just knowing how to position/control his body, or people not doing the technique exactly correct.
While being flexible helps, and certainly can buy you some time, it’s not going to save you against someone who knows how to perform the submissions properly.
For example, I have very flexible shoulders and it is very difficult for someone to tap me with an Americana, mostly because people get carried away trying to crank the arm and forget to slide it down low before attempting the submission. But, when done properly, my flexibility is neutralized.[/QUOTE]
and while your busy trying to crank the arm you waste to much effort and time until you realize how flexible they are and this gives the flexible person a chance to escape /apply his tecnique
i have freaky double jointed shoulders and absolutely none of the gracie jujitsu self defense techniques work on me
a flexible guy will definetly have the advantage in a bjj tournament
and since a ajority of mma gyms dont advocate stretching tma stylist have the advantage
[QUOTE=goju;936114]actually it is i train mma and many moves odnt work on double jointed or flexible people while they are easy to apply on stiff folks
even gene lebell noted this[/QUOTE]
I thought you had a Karate coach and wrestling coach to train you for MMA? :rolleyes:
My Bagua Teacher back in the states said,all the things you’re not allowed to do in a competition are the things you would do to beat a bigger guy in a fight. I think this can apply to mma as well. But you need to know how to grapple,that is a must.
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never forgoet chinese barehand martial arts was mainly used to train hand eye cordination for weapons, most of it is a inferior figting style[/QUOTE]
i’ve never heard that before
i didnt know i wasnt a street fighter just because i train mma doesnt mean i cant fight dirty
i dont need special training to kick someone in the balls or poke em in the eyes
i do have akrate coach and a wrestling coach!
When he comes in for a tackle, stick your knife in between his cervical vertebrae!
[QUOTE=goju;936115]and while your busy trying to crank the arm you waste to much effort and time until you realize how flexible they are and this gives the flexible person a chance to escape /apply his tecnique
i have freaky double jointed shoulders and absolutely none of the gracie jujitsu self defense techniques work on me[/quote]
I doubt it, but whatever.
a flexible guy will definetly have the advantage in a bjj tournament
and since a ajority of mma gyms dont advocate stretching tma stylist have the advantage
Most MMA guys recognize the importance of stretching. Many, many fighters advocate cross-training in yoga. You must attend the worst gym in America.