That looks similar to Green Dragon’s Snake Turns Over exercise.
Ford gave solid advice as usually and please listen to his comments. I do not need to add anything to this except there is a difference in neuromuscular strength which is skill specific (yes, strength is a skill) and muscular strength which is based on the anaerobic or aerobic energy systems. If you go to your local library or google it, you will find plenty of intel. Best of luck with your training.
Yours in Strength,
Bao Tran
I wouldn’t go by highschool anecdotes to design a performance program. There are many differences between highschool age and physical maturity. It’s silly to disregard scientific research based on, 'well I remember this one guy in highschool … '. And becnching 205 @ 115 is not anything unique. I did the same when I wrestled at 105 - my upperbody was FAR more developed than my lower.
Search through the forums for previous threads, go through the links in the sticky at the top of the forum, google for real scientifically backed programs. If you can’t explain WHY you should be doing something a certain way in detail, then you really don’t know if that’s the BEST way of doing something.
of course it builds raw strength. just look at the marathon runners they can go on for days. Too much bulk and you’l slow down.
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it’s ****ing groundhog day!
of course it builds raw strength. just look at the marathon runners they can go on for days. Too much bulk and you’l slow down.
just do forms. you don’t need to ever spar live against a resisting opponent to know how to fight, but point sparring is worth while. horse stance is an effective defense against a take down. biting and eye poking are effective defenses against ground fighters. you can stop someone’s heart with a chi blast after my $1000/day seminar on dim mak. marathon runners are the ideal athlete to emulate for a martial artist. basing your workout on stories of “the push up kid” is a good idea and sound advice (as opposed to someone who gives you a detailed introduction to weight lifting that is researchable). cult like kung fu clubs that are too deadly for the ring, and avoid interraction with other martial arts communities are generally looking out for you, and not trying to take your money and control you.
That’s not raw strength. That’s endurance. Raw strength refers to the amount of tension your muscles can generate. Squatting 500lbs once requires raw strength. Running a marathon does not.
So what I was saying before, using weights that are light (relative to your own level of strength) and doing high reps (because if you can do high reps, then the weights are light) does not build raw strength on a neurological or physical level.
you can’t move smoothly with tension in your muscles. it goes agaisnt tcma practice.
you can’t move smoothly with tension in your muscles. it goes agaisnt tcma practice.
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WTF?? You guys musta learned from the “abridged” book of fitness training…
some of you really are clueless…
what about body builders. Less extreme case, people who play gridiron, they have huge necks and shoulders tell me if this doesn’t affect mobility.
Bodybuilders are an extreme case. They don’t train to be athletic. They train to look big; that’s it.
Football players are some of the most athletic people on this planet… Speed and mobility is the name of the game. I think they are a case of how you can be massive and not only retain but use that extra strength to add to your natural athletic ability.
footballers are no were as athelethic as gymnist.
Awkward Chest
Er the reason i said earlier about having an ‘‘awkward’’ chest?? It’s because i study wing chun kung fu and if i have a large chest, it then becomes in the way of certain techniques such as lap sao and fat sao etc, do you see what i mean? if i have a large chest, then it is obstructing my movement of my inner arm, and i will therefore have to move around my chest with my arm,and so if benching increases chest size, then i dnt really want that now do i… 
would any of you guys have changed your advice given to me of workouts if you knew i was 15 years old (16 this summer, and already larger than most people my age) ?? does that effect anything?
thanks ,
hza
http://www.usa-gymnastics.org/publications/technique/1996/8/strength-training.html
Gymnasts lift heavy weights as part of their training.
footballers are no were as athelethic as gymnist.
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It’s called sports specificity. A gymnast trains to do one thing. A football player trains to do another.
Shockingly, you get good at what you train at.
Let me give you an example. Olympic weightlifters have the fastest 5 and 10m sprint times in the world. Why? because they are trained to explode, and your power generation is crucial to Olympic style lifting.
Sounds pretty athletic to me. Not to mention the insane flexibility, balance and core strength and ABILITY TO RELAX you have to have to do that stuff well.
So much for tension.
Can they run a marathon? No.
But a marathon runner can’t lift 2.5 times their bodyweight over their head either.
Getting into arguments about “who is more athletic” by way of sport is absurd.
Gymnasts have big chests, shoulders, and neck.
Emin Boztepe has a “big” chest. William Cheung had a “big” chest. Not as big as a lineman, but alot bigger than yours. Didn’t get in the way of their Wing Chun! As long as you keep up all your flexibility exercises you’ll be fine. Call us when you are benching over 315 pounds and maybe we’ll talk about stopping muscles from growing due to exercise.
I think that the tension thing is definately important. However, I have done bodyweight exercises, such as high rep dips, and gotten very tense and sore. I have gotten the same feeling from weights as well. If I were to spar or train right after this I would be slower than usual and probably lacking power due to the residual tension. But to say that these exercises in moderation will produce some sort of huge chest that cannot move, then no, I don’t agree with that. I do feel that many people train strength to the neglect of other much more important things but to each his own. However, if you are unable to “fit” into wing chun, perhaps it is time to find something else. I don’t think every martial art is for everyone, otherwise we’d have only one style or approach. If you aren’t comfortable with the style you do, and you have not done other things in your life to aggrevate this, then you should probably find something else.
As to building martial art specific strength. I think hitting the heavy bag is pretty good and so is refined technique practice. Many people exert way too much unnecessary force when they spar or fight and with a refinement and a conditioning to the demands of fighting, you will be much more relaxed and the power will come through this. If you are talking about max weight 1RM, then I believe others have covered that…
They did some research on this over at dragondoor. Apparently, this was first mentioned in some book a while ago, but no one could find where the author got his stats, and they tried to contact him or something but he couldn’t be reached. Apparently, there is no source as to where that stat came from
On a related note, tho, I’ve seen pics of Olympic lifters in mid air from HUGE vertical jumps. Same principle.
To all you anti-muslcle people, trained athletes can contract and relax their muscles faster than regular people. Even tho it’s already been said, big muscles don’t equal being tense.
And you have to get pretty freaking big before it would interefere with your mobility. The only way that’s going to happen is if you train a specific way, eat a specific way, use the right drugs, and happen to have been born with the genetics to even get that big in the first place. Look at all the people in the gym who have been trying to “get huge” for years and are still small. It doesn’t just happen when you start lifting weights.
They did some research on this over at dragondoor. Apparently, this was first mentioned in some book a while ago, but no one could find where the author got his stats, and they tried to contact him or something but he couldn’t be reached. Apparently, there is no source as to where that stat came from
On a related note, tho, I’ve seen pics of Olympic lifters in mid air from HUGE vertical jumps. Same principle.
To all you anti-muslcle people, trained athletes can contract and relax their muscles faster than regular people. Even tho it’s already been said, big muscles don’t equal being tense.
And you have to get pretty freaking big before it would interefere with your mobility. The only way that’s going to happen is if you train a specific way, eat a specific way, use the right drugs, and happen to have been born with the genetics to even get that big in the first place. Look at all the people in the gym who have been trying to “get huge” for years and are still small. It doesn’t just happen when you start lifting weights.