How does your system defend against the dreaded “Double Handed Front Shove”? You know that drunk guy that thinks you spilled beer and is up in your face. Then, when he gets close enough both of his hands shove forward slamming your chest back.
I am going to try and put together a youtube video together explaining this hopefully tommorrow. I am going to get a couple of students and film a bit of our self defense against the shove.
what’s your opinon?
ginosifu
deflect, turn the waist, push the side gate.
punch him in the face as hes reaching at you to shove
well, the way we defend against that double handed push is to take a step back with one foot (like stepping back into a Tip Toe or Cat Stance) to avoid the “PUSH” while the right hand comes up under one of his arms while the left one comes over the top of his other arm. One hand presses down and out while the other rises up and out. This causes the other guys arms open wide while his torso pushes forward. After that we can either knee him, or front snap kick, or whatever. it’s up to you at that moment of time.
I don’t drink, therefore I don’t go to bars, therefore I don’t get shoved by drunk people. Probably not the answer you were looking for, but the easiest and most effective way to avoid a fight is to avoid a fight.
the two handed shove is common in street fights even when youre attacker isnt a drunk:D
usually both parties shove each other hoping one will back down from it turning into a full on altercation
Out here in the SF bay area, we don’t push back. one someone has decided to put his hands on you “IT’s ON!” that’s when the blows start flying.
OR! you can try whats in this next video…
I would fall down. Stand back up, drop my pants and underwear. Start crying. Throw my arms open and ask for a hug.
This tends to get people walking away from you and diffuses and adversarial situation.
[QUOTE=xcakid;1062668]I would fall down. Stand back up, drop my pants and underwear. Start crying. Throw my arms open and ask for a hug.
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Around here we just call that ‘Thursday night’.
plant a forehead in their nose… crack sinus cavity. 
Basic principle is that if his hands are on you, there’s nothing protecting his face, or anything else.
You can fight the hands, or you can fight the ‘man’. Since you’re going to have to fight the man eventually, might as well get on with it promptly.
@uki - howyagoin’er matey?
Your opponent’s pushing arms is like the “clinch” situation. He gives you some “free” contact points if you know how to take advantage on it.
[QUOTE=Yum Cha;1062674]@uki - howyagoin’er matey?[/QUOTE]most excellent as usual… got puter back with wireless… severed the connection at home to spare time - now i just roam the wee morning hours in search of unsecured wifi. 
[QUOTE=Shaolin;1062660]I don’t drink, therefore I don’t go to bars.[/QUOTE]
lol ur lsoer
Thanks everyone. Hopefully tommorrow I’ll have some vids dending on how lazy my students are and if they will even wake up.
ginosifu
Drunk guys moves to shove me, I just move aside and watch him fall on his face.
Non-drunk guy who wants to hurt me? Same as someone else mentioned here with the waist turn, only I grab the back collar, step in for the trip, and face slam the dumb ******* into the ground with his own fool momentum. Stomp stomp kick, rinse and repeat until threat is neutralized.
Yeah, there’s a few things they can do to get away from that, though they normally don’t. However, they still have the forward momentum, and they are stuck with that. Ues according to how they react.
can be tricky depending on: suprise, space, size, reaction time, agility, how drunk you are 
im of the mind that if you ‘know’ something is coming, pre-emptive attack, thats just what i believe (uki’s headbutt is perfect lol). but if you get suprised, reaction time, agility and footwork will save you from falling down. if you think its coming but dont attack first, but can be prepared by even a fraction of a second, you ‘might’ be able to dissipate the force if you move back putting him off balance, or avoid the shove all together, then you can counter with strikes or grappling. move inside with strikes, sweep/throw, or clinch.
or grab a bar stool and yell ‘bar fight’ and try to start a rumble till the bouncers own both of you.
Not a fan of the headbutt. Could accidentally kill the guy if you hit them hard enough.
That and a last second shift on the part of either of you, and you end up knocking yourself out.
[QUOTE=uki;1062683]most excellent as usual… got puter back with wireless… severed the connection at home to spare time - now i just roam the wee morning hours in search of unsecured wifi. :)[/QUOTE]
welcome back; place wasn’t the same w/out you - people started taking themselves waaaay to seriously…