So, somehow people that don’t give much regard to the life of others, NOT giving much regard to the lie of another is surprising?
[QUOTE=David Jamieson;1137690]Can it happen in America?
Yes, yes it can…
In fact:
Approximately 1,229 people have been killed so far this year by hit and run drivers in the US.*
Another, 83,628 people have been injured.*
so, yes, that was a tragic thing to occur and to have it go viral on the internet.
I’m sure it will cause more cat calls about how the chinese are all monsters and don’t care, but this does happen right here. We have our own uncaring monsters and plenty of them.
It happens anywhere there are vehicles in abundance. Everywhere.[/QUOTE]
really, i have always found the chinese to be more apathetic when dealing with people they dont know. i always just assumed it was a culturqal thing coz of the sheer amount of people in china. if you aknowledged even 1/100 of the people you saw in one day you wouldnt get anything done. i cant speak for the whole race tho, i’m only talking about the ones here, in vancity.
lemme say also that i have met very many chinese who would help that kid. im not knocking the race or anything. ive just noticed that they are less likely to even aknowledge a stranger on the street than most of the other races i come across. and here in vancouver, we come across them all.
somebody posted a vid ghere a year ago or so that had a guy and young girl on the street faking an attack. she yelled “you arent my daddy” etc and the test was to see how folks responded. ironically all the middle class looking white folks avoided it whereas the stereotypical black men in baggy clothes that are always viewed as criminal and dangerous were the only opnes who actually tried to help the lil white girl.
i totally believe something like that could happen in north america.
it doesnt shouck me that people would step over a body in the street, but it does suprise me that they wouild step over a child in the street. to me thats just dfisgusting. karma is a *****, they’ll get theirs. prolly arleady had, before the accident even happened.
[QUOTE=sanjuro_ronin;1138095]So, somehow people that don’t give much regard to the life of others, NOT giving much regard to the lie of another is surprising?[/QUOTE]
no… not at all…
was anyone suprised by this vid? shocked, sure, disgusted, yeah… but not suprised… it happens everyday, no bout a doubt it!!! 
[QUOTE=David Jamieson;1137926]Well, it’s not likely that China will suddenly have the Judeo-Christian ethic embedded into their culture where they will pre-guilt about such things and thereby alter behaviours that preclude these sorts of things.
People that have been pressed down and who have seen their government wipe out hoards of human beings for the sake of political ideology don’t see the value of life in the same way as someone from a particularly nurturing and somewhat egalitarian culture does.
It’s easy to not care when you have a certainty within you that you are not cared for either in a greater sense. It’s reciprocal and every one is on their own in that sort of thought form.
Take for instance how America was founded. “All men are created equal”. At the time, people who were not White and of european extraction were not even considered human and there was no penalty for killing anyone who wasn’t white. It was akin to shooting a mere animal. If it was a slave, you might have had to pay the monetary value to the slave owner depending on what you shot the slave for.
Even today these prejudices manifest themselves in strange ways. If there is no apparent enemy to hate, people start to hate themselves. Or if the enemy you hate is far too powerful to do anything about, then hopelessness sets in and chaos follows.
Brace yourself, because in China it is going to get worse, far far worse. Capitalism has made a home there now, which will create a divide above a divide and there will be even less caring, less organized charity and so on. Yes, it’s a cultural problem. Every culture has cultural problems.[/QUOTE]
well said, man.
an atheist country
Incidents provoke talk of moral collapse in China
Keith B. Richburg, Washington Post
Friday, October 21, 2011
Several dramatic recent incidents - including one involving a 2-year-old girl run over in the road while more than a dozen bystanders ignored her plight - have opened a searing debate in China over whether, in the race to get rich, the country might have lost its moral bearings.
The little girl, Yue Yue, who was critically injured and remains in a coma, was run over Thursday by two vehicles as a gruesome video recording captured 18 people walking or driving by who did not intervene. What most shocked many here was that this was just the latest example of Chinese passers-by who declined to help others in distress.
At the West Lake UNESCO World Heritage Site in eastern Zhejiang province last week, an unidentified woman, reportedly an American tourist, jumped into the water to rescue a woman who was drowning, possibly attempting suicide. Internet chat sites immediately lighted up with questions about why a foreigner intervened, while no Chinese would.
The reason most often given is that recently in China, bystanders who did intervene to help others have found themselves accused of wrongdoing. In August, in the eastern province of Jiangsu, a bus driver named Yin Hongbing stopped to help an elderly woman who had been struck by a hit-and-run driver. But until he was later vindicated by surveillance videos, Yin was the one accused of hitting the woman.
There have also been several cases of passers-by stopping to help elderly people who had fallen, or were pushed, and who then were sued by the elderly victims or were arrested. The thinking here is: They must have been responsible, or they would not have stopped to help.
It did not help that the Health Ministry in September issued new Good Samaritan guidelines that essentially warn passers-by not to rush to help elderly people on the ground but to first ascertain whether they are conscious and then wait for trained medical personnel to arrive.
One Internet user, in a comment posted after the West Lake incident, wrote: “That tourist was too impulsive. She didn’t know that in China, kind people who save others are often accused of being the perpetrator. The next time you run into someone who was hit by a car, you need to be careful.”
But the case of the toddler lying in the street has ignited a debate about indifference to suffering and whether society has suffered some moral collapse.
“Cracks can be seen in the moral framework of Chinese society,” the Communist Party-owned Global Times newspaper wrote in its lead editorial Wednesday. “Many are asking: What’s wrong with China?”
In response, many here - scholars in interviews and Internet users in chat rooms - have turned the blame on the government. They say the breakdown began during the Cultural Revolution of the 1960s and '70s and that in a system that does not respect individual rights and freedoms, people take their cue from the behavior of officials at the top.
“I think the biggest problem is the corruption of the government officials,” said Zhou Xiaozheng, a sociology professor at Renmin University in Beijing. Hu Xingdou, an economics professor at Beijing Institute of Technology, said he saw the problem as an absence of religious ethics in what is largely an atheist society. Modern Chinese, he said, “don’t have beliefs, although China has indigenous religions like Taoism and Buddhism. … China is actually an atheist country, and Chinese people are never afraid of God’s punishment.”
‘kind people who save others are often accused of being the perpetrator’ 
When I lived in Taipei, in three instances I stopped to help people who had been hurt in motorcycle/scooter accidents; in one case, a little girl sitting behind her grandfather had her leg broken in a collision with a car. In each case, I was the only person who even acknowledged them. Everybody else walked or drove right by, and I even overheard two young women walking by…one of them told the other (in Mandarin, of course) “Keep going! Go! Don’t look at them! Not our business.”
I only stopped because I could only imagine if it were me or someone I cared about. I couldn’t do much, but I waited with them, helped move them or their bikes out of the road to the curb so they wouldn’t get run over, and tried to summon help, which eventually came. The average time I spent with them was about 30 to 45 minutes. When the help arrived, I quietly left.
I didn’t do it for thanks and never got any. But sometimes I wonder what they would have thought if they knew the only person who cared enough to stop and help them was a foreigner, and of Japanese extraction at that.
http://shanghaiist.com/2011/10/20/lu-xun-good-samaritans.php
“In China, especially in the cities, if someone fainted on the streets, or if someone was knocked over by a car, you’ll find lots of gawkers and gloaters, but rarely will you find someone willing to extend a helping hand.”
- LU XUN ON THE RARITY OF GOOD SAMARITANS IN CHINA (1933)
[QUOTE=GeneChing;1138738]‘kind people who save others are often accused of being the perpetrator’ :([/QUote] It almost seems like the government condones this type of carelessness..I mean I dont know anything about modern China but if the commies lol start putting out Care campaigns telling people to watch out for pedestrians what are they going to say after the next Tiannemen Square type of incidence. Putting tanks on University students and walking by dead kids is the same **** am I wrong?.
[QUOTE=diego;1139953]It almost seems like the government condones this type of carelessness..I mean I dont know anything about modern China but if the commies lol start putting out Care campaigns telling people to watch out for pedestrians what are they going to say after the next Tiannemen Square type of incidence. Putting tanks on University students and walking by dead kids is the same **** am I wrong?.[/QUOTE]
Or like when police gas and beat people in Egypt in Tahir square, and we all get upset and say what scumbags the Egyptians are and then when police gas, beat and shoot people with rubber bullets in Philly, San Fransisco, Seattle, Baltimore, Oakland and so on, we talk about what a bunch of chaotic hippies those people are.
we all don’t like to see our own sh1t and easily regard someone else’s as worse.
It’s pathetic.
yeah, i agree. we aint sh1t. im really starting to get disgusted by all this ‘our way is the best way’ bullsh1t.
you hear it the most with our legal system. “its not perfect but i cant think of anything better”. thats such trash. i have tons of ideas that would be better. i got revisions for days… and if somebody doesnt, they arent as smart as they think they are.
[QUOTE=David Jamieson;1139955]Or like when police gas and beat people in Egypt in Tahir square, and we all get upset and say what scumbags the Egyptians are and then when police gas, beat and shoot people with rubber bullets in Philly, San Fransisco, Seattle, Baltimore, Oakland and so on, we talk about what a bunch of chaotic hippies those people are.
we all don’t like to see our own sh1t and easily regard someone else’s as worse.
It’s pathetic.[/QUOTE]
That is very true.
There’s also a tendency for us to lump the legitimate protesters into the same category as the few provacateurs that often infect these gatherings and turn them violent.