Hate Crime at a local school..

I heard about a local hate crime at a school near where I live. Happened a few weeks ago, it involved an Arab group and “White-Power” gang that were about to fight at a park. The group of Arabs decided not to show and left a single Arab guy to deal with the other gang.

The guy ended up with 3 broken ribs, broken jaw, broken nose, broken arm, and a serious concussion, thankfully he didn’t die. The gang of twelve white-power guys had apparently beat the guy with baseball bats and golf clubs.

How would a martial arts take this situation, if you were trapped and could NOT run? How much would you get in trouble for extreme self defense, such as crippling/killing 1 or 2 of the attackers?

  1. Dont be there / run like ****.

  2. Beg for your life.

  3. Try and keep your head and neck covered.

  4. pray.

  5. Try and remember faces.

You cant hope to win against a large number of people (you dont say exactly how many people) unless you are armed and they arent. Even then I wouldnt fancy my chances.

What would be the point in crippling one of them when the rest are then gonna have a REALLY good reason to **** you up?

Once you are in such a situation all you can do is try not to antagonise them further in any mehod.

Chances of 1 vs many that are possible armed are slim no matter what weapon you carry or what MA you learned.

Best bet is not to get involved with people or groups like the ones mentioned above.

Cheers.

i’d try to talk my way out of it but the second i realise it wont work id try to **** one of them up real bad. Either cripple or kill one or mabe a couple then try to make them think i could take them all.

I’d probly get myself in more trouble but the way i see it is if im gona get my head kicked in anyway i might be able to take a couple of them down on the way.

This is what happens when someone is stupid enough to think they can handle multiple opponents. What the hell was he doing trying to fight a group of people on his own?

How would a martial artist handle a situation like this?? Try like hell not to be in that situation in the first place.

what’s really sad about that is

that if ppl knew this world’s history alil’ better they’d know that a great deal if not all of caucasian ppl’s on this earth are in one way or another decendants of the Arab diaspora. People are so **** ignorant…we’re all connected, one human race…

stupid asses.:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

How much would you get in trouble for extreme self defense, such as crippling/killing 1 or 2 of the attackers?

first, I doubt if most martial artists are all that deadly regardless of what they might think.

second if twelve mofo’s with baseball bats and golf clubs decide they really want to hurt you there ain’t too much you can do about it except go down swinging and start thinking about that nice bed in the hospital.

what a bunch of ****s the arabs are, to **** off and leave one guy to fight 12, just shows how dumb all that gang crap is. Simply put, in this situation you are ****ed, especially if you let them surround you. I guess the only options are to try to use multi-attacker strategies (there have been other threads on that) or to crawl into a ball to minimise damage and hope they get bored with hitting you while you are still alive.
I wouldn’t give a flying **** about what happens to them, if you did fluke it and kill one of them you would have little problem convincing a court that you acted in self defence. Assuming you’re still alive to go to court :smiley:

Sorry, But like others have said, no matter what martial arts you know, you are not going to take out 12 mofo’s w/baseball bats…
I would probably… either run,
Or bust out my cell phone, have a filthy ol beating squad on the way,
or 3. try to remember face of those who administered beating, and track each one of those sorry mofo’s down and give him proper “one on one” treatment.
Seriously, your legs or your celly are the only things gonna help you here…
Or the AK you luckily had hidden in your long johns.
:slight_smile:

Don’t you know if you study karate for 7 years you can handle 5 guys at the same time!!!

bdahahahahahahaha :smiley: :smiley: :smiley:

sorry, hehe, that’s just something someone told me once :slight_smile:

What if you happen to be carrying a 9 Section Chain or something?

Or you could just hide your kwandao behind your leg.


:slight_smile:

Is that a kwandao in your pants?

… sorry, couldn’t help it.

first, I doubt if most martial artists are all that deadly regardless of what they might think. second if twelve mofo’s with baseball bats and golf clubs decide they really want to hurt you there ain’t too much you can do about it except go down swinging and start thinking about that nice bed in the hospital.

I find it amusing that a bunch of posters on a “Street/Reality Forum” don’t mention the use of firearms.

Chances of 1 vs many that are possible armed are slim no matter what weapon you carry or what MA you learned.

So, you don’t think a handgun would improve your chances of survival?

High School Kids, you need to be 21 to buy and carry a handgun.
Unless you happen to have some sort of rifle with you.

illegal firearms are fairly easy to get.

High School Kids, you need to be 21 to buy and carry a handgun.

SanSoo, if you recall, you asked a rhetorical question about what we would do as martial artists if we found ourselves in similar circumstances:

How would a martial arts take this situation, if you were trapped and could NOT run?

Personally, I would start sending rounds down range.

depending on the state you may or may not be able to legally carry a handgun.

a handgun might help, then again you may just get shot with your own gun.

If I remember right the average person can cover 21 feet in about 1.5 seconds, can you draw your handgun, accrurately aim it and shoot a target that is moving in that time? I bet most people can’t.

a gun might improve someones chances of surviving such an encounter, then again I think it depends on the level of training the individual has. a handgun isn’t a magic solution in and of itself.

Originally posted by Fred Sanford
a gun might improve someones chances of surviving such an encounter, then again I think it depends on the level of training the individual has. a handgun isn’t a magic solution in and of itself.

Agreed, a gun is only as effective as the person wielding it.

Plus, there might be situations when you cannot draw, aim and shoot your gun safely or got enough room/space to do so.
Too many people rely too heavily on their firearms as a deterent or a final means of ending a confrontation.

Rely on anything too much and you will suffer for it.

Example:
Above scenario you are facing multiple attackers with baseball-bats.
Guaranteed one of those guys will take out the wrist of the hand holding the gun, if you got a shot off and wounded/killed on of theirs your chances of surviving the confrontation just drastically lowered.
Those guys didn’t assemble there to play patty-cake, they most prolly are hyped up under the influence and wanting to stomp someone.

Cheers.