A guy in my kung fu class got jumped. He’s a beginner in kung fu but has been boxing and kickboxing and stuff all his life. Three guys jumped him for his rolex and stuff. he said he was winning until they pulled out a gun, at which point they made him get on his knees, tied him up, and then all started kicking him. He went to the hospital, got 10 stitches, and had part of his ear cut off. He’s still got a black eye(s). Kinda makes you think, huh? …and want to train. Crazy world.
rolex?
he should have given them the watch,
hes lucky to be alive. he over estimated himself and under estimated his attackers, of course they had a gun,they were robbing him. there was three of them to intimidate him into compliance and that is what you should do. unless you perceive that they will use deadly force or cause serious bodily harm to you, how do you know that?one way to know, is if they try to move you from the area of the initial encounter, then do your worst,if you cant run.
f.u.c.k.i.n guns, they make the biggest pansies invincible.
But yeah, he should’ve given them the watch and other stuff
There’s too many people who take jet li movies seriously :rolleyes:
Unless they outright attack you, you don’t try to fight. Run away or listen to them, don’t try to be a hero. Not to long ago someone posted a link to a news site where some fool chased after these guys who tried to steal his car. When he found them, they killed him. Now he’s being called a “hero”. Gimme a break, he should be called a loser.
It’s easy to be an armchair quarterback (or whatever).
Nobody here knows what happened, he may not have had the chance to run. They might have ambushed him out of the blue thinking he would go down easy, who knows.
It sucks that it happened, I hope he is going to okay.
No, an armchair martial artist would have said “Pfft, I woulda kicked all their @sses and took their wallets”.
not to sound arrogant, but i would have, then made them participate in a gay porn. well, after i wake up in teh hospital from trying that, i will have thought about teh gay porn thing.
That guy is the man in my book. He didn’t over/underestimate anyone. Maybe you missed the part where he was winning until those pu$$ies pulled out a gun on him. If they didn’t pull out a weapon on him he shoulda beat 'em all to death. It has nothing to do with trying to be the next Jet Li. Maybe you forgot what Martial Arts are for. There not meant for finding enlightenment, following a spirtual path or making yourself healthier although those are good side effects. He did what he had to which is defend himself. Maybe some people should take up Jazzercise or Yoga if their willing to take it in the ass like that. I decided a long time ago not to give in to cowards. I dont have a death wish but i’m fighting till i see a gun or another reason not to.
leo
whens the last time you fought 3 people?
how about 2?
studying martial arts is about intelligence.
as well as fighting,you know,
survival strategy.
in a situation like that assessment is critical,
if you have to,fight,even if your outnumbered,
if you don`t,look for other options.
i`m not a tough guy,
all the tough guys i know are either dead or in jail.
hes lucky to be alive,if you ask him im sure he will he will tell you.
As a matter of fact, on the phone he did say ‘he was lucky to be alive’, but I can’t remember if those were his words or a quote from the doctor at the hospital he was taken to.
So leo, if a group of guys said “give us your watch” you’d bust out on them? That’s just plain stupid whether you win or lose. However, if they attack you and you fight back, that’s fine. In fact, that’s what you probably should do, lol.
However, putting material possessions or “pride” in front your own safety is a very dumb thing to do. Run away or comply, don’t start a fight.
When I was younger I was walking through a dark field then I heard someone say “GET HIM!!” I looked and saw three guys running right towards me.
I hesitated and I thought “Im a pretty tough guy” then I thought “Theres three of them” So I ran.
I ran towards the nearest building (it was a school) which was well lit and there were many many people around the corner since there was a dance there that night. When I was a lot closer to the light I saw a friend of mine walking towards me with his girlfriend.
So I stopped and quickly explained these guys wanted to beat me up and that he should help me fight them, and his girlfriend should leave. I figured we were close enough to the well lit crowd that people should notice soon enough.
Turns out I knew a few of the guys and they were playing a joke on me. I didn’t know though, it was too dark. My other friend thought I was a bit of a coward for running and I was mad at myself for a long time. But since I started training and thinking about survival, I realized that I did the right thing.
I was lucky that they were joking around.
But it was skill that made me run way faster than them. 
Just thought I’d share a story.
I love my Gong Fu. And I have faith in it. But I still carry a gun and a knife for personal defense.
But I still carry a gun and a knife for personal defense.
That’s a personal decision.
Dude, I like guns and all, but I could never carry one around just in case. I have lived in some crappy neighborhoods in Chicago, but never had the urge to carry a gun. Everyone is different.
Yes, it is a personal decision.
I carry a gun.
A few days ago a woman in Richmond,VA was ferrying a couple o’kids across town. Some guys were hangin out in the street, blocking traffic, shootin the sh!t, talkin to the bettys, whatever. This lady makes it known (horn, gesture, screaming, who knows) that she needs them to step aside so she can drive on.
They shoot her in the head, shes dead. One of the kids takes a bullet.
My hope is that people will just run over these dingalings in the street from now on. The best part - it’s usually legal to do so. 
Is that why we train so hard in martial arts, so when it comes down to the crunch we say here take my couple of thousand $ watch, my wallet & keys when their got youre address. Im not trying to come off as a hero & understand what everyones saying.
But i think that the reasons i gave are worth fighting 4. Its not like the guy knew they had a gun, besides seems like he had some martial skills & if u seen many people fight ull know that many cant even thow a proper punch. I even seen some prof. fighers on tv that couldnt punch wright. Its not just over the $ Its the principle, thats 1 of the reasons we do martial arts(self defence) to defend ourseves when the time comes. Im not stupid if i was really outnumbered or they had a gun i would have to swallow my pride. I would have fought, most times if u hit the guy closest to u with everything youre got & bust his face open(blood flyes) or a hard brutal snap kick to the balls(sending them up out threw his mouth):p. I doubt the other 2 would stay around, even if they do theres only 2 left. Anyway hope youre friend gets better, carrying a gun around everywhere is a bit risky. U will end up in jail, i would recomend, what i carry occasionaly my best mate thats always there 2 give me a extra hand.(knuckle Busters)
"at which point they made him get on his knees, tied him up, and then all started kicking him. "
What??! :mad: Well it’s not you fault, but your story has ****ed me off for the rest of the night! I can’t stand that kind of ****.
And no, I’m going to tell you guys right now that martial arts aren’t enough to make you safe on the street. That is going to be really controversial, but it’s the truth. :mad:
If you’re going to attack in that kind of situation, kill with a gun of your own. :mad:
Give them your rolex, then shoot them in the back as they leave, then take your rolex back, and shoot them one more time for fun.
Ryu
LOL
I just realized how incredibly opposite my post on here and the one on Prana’s thread was…
Sigh…it’s easy to see the things I just don’t accept huh?
Ryu
Ryu, if I had not read the name of the user who wrote that, I would never of guessed it was calm and collective you.