Dave Ross,
the point is many teachers and coaches like to enter thier students in events like this but dont want to help out with judging. This has been a problem since I used to fight in ISKA in the 80’s… many teachers think selfishly when it comes to these types of events.
If you bring your students to compete then you should at least offer to judge or referee to support the event and do your part. If you want to bring in your school and you are only there for your students or yourself and no one elses, then yes you should have to pay. If you dont agree then simply offer to help out.
[QUOTE=lkfmdc;1089759]Absurd and why people don’t support events. You bring 20 students at what $60 a head and thus the event makes $1200 and they want you to pay extra to be there as a spectator?
If you don’t see that is wrong, wow[/QUOTE]
This is common for all National events. If you go to any major tournament this will be the case 99% of the time. Now I have heard a few smaller venues where they just let coaches and sifu in for free but, for the larger scale tourney’s, everyone paying is normal.
David: whether you see this as wrong or not does not change the fact that larger scale events have other factors to look at such as:
Every body and there brother is a Sifu and wants to get in for free.
Larger events have a larger price tag and what you don’t know behind the scenes is that many promoters have other costs, such as; higher venue cost, paying VIP travel and hotel costs, higher and higher liability insurance etc etc.
In the long run, without spectators, large scale events will go down the tubes. Why can’t you just buck up and pay the $10 to support your kung fu brothers?
Every body and there brother is a Sifu and wants to get in for free.
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I am not talking about some dude with no students calling himself “sifu” I am talking about someone that is making YOU a lot of money and then nickle and diming him
I"m sorry, but when I bring students, they are fighting, and I am too busy wrapping hands, warming them up and cornering them to watch guys in PJ’s do forms, but I sure as hell am not paying to bring my students to you…
[QUOTE=lkfmdc;1092684]I am not talking about some dude with no students calling himself “sifu” I am talking about someone that is making YOU a lot of money and then nickle and diming him
I"m sorry, but when I bring students, they are fighting, and I am too busy wrapping hands, warming them up and cornering them to watch guys in PJ’s do forms, but I sure as hell am not paying to bring my students to you…[/QUOTE]
David,
If you brought 10 or 20 students to support our tournament, I bet you my teacher would let you in for free, you are right… your support would ne appreciated. On a whole though, many peeps walk in and say I am a sifu… let me in for free. Also my student here.. they are a sifu also, bla bla bla blaaah. That’s big problem we have had to deal with here for the last 20 years that I can remember.
Send some fighters next year and I will personally see to it that you get in for free!
On a another side of the story… similar to the state of NY, the Ohio athletic commission is trying to take over all martial arts tournaments. If they take over, they will stop all tournaments unless they follow thier rules. This means you will have to give them their cut… use their doctors, use their insurance etc etc. (they called and said they were going to send undercover agents to our tourney to see what we were doing and possibly shut us down).
[QUOTE=ginosifu;1092723]David,
If you brought 10 or 20 students to support our tournament, I bet you my teacher would let you in for free, you are right…
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we used to have a saying when we went to kung fu tournaments “10 sifu and between them 3 students”…
everyone is a sifu, not what I am talking about
I took 25 guys to the Arnolds one year, each paid $60 and then they wanted to charge me $40 to enter. That’s just messed up.
