Anyone who actually thinks that this guy is Sin The should take a reality check.
San Soo student - crazy mad drunkard = mad insane drunkards fist… Its a drunken form, you’re just crazy and drunk…
Drunken beggar is a drunken stick and bowl form.
Ive got those forms.
And you know all about it after 5 months of “training”?
:rolleyes:
Re: What it takes to be qualified to speak
Originally posted by shaolinarab
These are potentially legitimate questions, but one will find that these systems take a different approach to studying the martial arts
Yeah. Their approach is to ham together a mish mash of made up bollocks and stolen forms, slap the name Shaolin on it for marketing and charge a stupid amount of cash.
“Bah, you foolish plebes seek to discredit the ultimate martial art of Shaoin Do!”
Maybe im not up to speed with my vocabulary but what are “plebes” ? If it is a word then i bow to your superior something or other. If not, then thats **** funny and i am going to call many, many people “foolish plebes” from this day forward.
“Bah, you foolish plebes seek to discredit the ultimate martial art of Shaoin Do!”
Maybe im not up to speed with my vocabulary but what are “plebes” ? If it is a word then i bow to your superior something or other. If not, then thats **** funny and i am going to call many, many people “foolish plebes” from this day forward.
plebe = pleb = plebian = SD practioners.
He was nearly right.
cool so we now have a fitting word for them. Beware You PLEBIANS!!!
shaolinarab,
Welcome to the forum. As an advocate for SD you may get some insults thrown you way, but I’ll help you out if I can. I would say that you should’t take what anyone says about SD too harshly. Some people here can engage you in a legitimate conversation wit their criticisms logically explained and others just like to troll.
I enjoyed your analogy of SD to a liberal arts education and the comparison to Kuk Sool Won ( a style I have not encountered). Are you coming to Lexington next month for the tournament?
Many so-called martial arts choose to do the former; bruce lee chose the latter.
Oh yeah, Bruce was the eptiomey of a humble, respectful Traditional Martial Artist. :rolleyes:
Do you think he was more humble before or after Wong Jack Man defeated him?
just a little exploration into the history of the system would lead you to find that after the last Fukien temple was destroyed, the monks had to go into hiding. One of them, Su Kong Tai Djin, had mastered all the styles that were taught in the temple, and he passed that knowledge to a student that systemized everything in Indonesia, giving it a japanese flavor because of the discrimination against the chinese.
Can you provide any legitimate documentation supporting this claim?
SD SUCKS!!!
err…
wait a minute…
" you claim to study Shaolin-do in Texas yet you have said nothing to clarify any of Sin The’s statements, which makes me suspicious of you, but no offense"
Eh? Cause I know Sin The’ is a joke on here. Dont take too seriously anything said bout SD here or your gonna have a sh!tty time here.
does shaolin do have a praying mantis form?
Several, pretty much all 7* I believe…
what was the purpose of incorporating 7* mantis forms amid 900 others? So as not to seem that I am being offensive, although I may be. It has been posted on these forums that Shaolin Do has 900+ forms and that Sin The knows all of them. How many were original shaolin forms? Does Sin The believe that 7* or any mantis for that matter originated in shaolin, or is it just the evolution of the system where some new things are incorporated as time goes by as the head of the system sees fit, or is it something else. I’ve never seen shaolin Do so I’m not bashing it, but for anyone to say they learned all shaolin had to teach, even a monk, its hard to believe.
I dont take everything I hear to heart. I dont honestly believe that our system incorporates 900 forms. (there are approximately 100+ shortforms and chin na) Im sure of which were counted in the “900” forms. Sin’s most senior student has somewheres around 450 forms… still only half of what Sin claims to know. 3 “new” forms have been taught out this year to my knowledge, 1 more in november. Guess these new forms are just comming out of the “900” forms…
Forgot what I was getting at… I need more coffee. Finish this argument later.
I don’t think that Sin The’ represents all the supposed 900 forms to be “original” shaolin forms. Throughout the years, the shaolin temples have incorporated systems that have their origins outside the temple into their own training. (I think Gene may have posted something similar to this in the Shaolin forum.) so how many of the forms that he has taught out were “original” shaolin forms and how many come from systems that were incorporated later, I don’t know.
BTW, I don’t know much about SD’s mantis, but I’ve been told some of it is southern mantis.
ShaolinArab
… This might seem a bit OT, but what house were you in and when did you graduate? I or my sister might very well know you. PM me if you want.
Regarding Southern Mantis, do you just learn one of the three forms, or do you learn the entire system, including the breathing – which is different from many other syles.
With all that material I’d be concerned about the quality of any one particular skill. Southern Matis by the way, is not Shaolin, and actually has its roots in Chinese royalty. And, could be argued that it is actually not a “mantis” style. What I learned was all closed fist, very low kicks.
Supposedly the entire system is taught… Im not sure tho… I know the breathing is not taught however…
I don’t think that Sin The’ represents all the supposed 900 forms to be “original” shaolin forms. Throughout the years, the shaolin temples have incorporated systems that have their origins outside the temple into their own training. (I think Gene may have posted something similar to this in the Shaolin forum.) so how many of the forms that he has taught out were “original” shaolin forms and how many come from systems that were incorporated later, I don’t know.
There is a huge difference between incorporating a complete system, or merely incorporating an individual form or two from a complete system.