So did Shamrock make a soft paste of Gracie?
More importantly can somebody PLEASE tell me how Cung Le did. Sherdog has nothing on the two top fights of the night!
SPOILER ALERT
Both got 1st round knockouts. Cung at like 3min, Frank at like 20 seconds.
If anyone has video footage or even stills from these two fights let me know!
glad that frank won do you have any more info, i couldnt find any results on the net just pre match talks did you see the results on the web?
Apparently the event is supposed to be aired on Fox Sports in 30 days. I’d be surprised if you could find footage before that unless someone snuck in a handycam.
not to pump another forum, but where else to find info on MMA PPV but
http://www.sherdog.com/news/articles.asp?n_id=4109
thanks monk i couldnt get a seach result before, maxfighting are always behind in their news
BJJ wins again…oh…wait.
Cung & Frank
Cung defeated Altman in 3:51 in the 1st round by knockout. It was all stand-up fighting; I was disappointed that we didn’t get to see any of Cung’s ground skills. Cung just kicked the snot out of Altman. His attack was mostly comprised Muay Thai kicks, an absolutely stunning barrage to Altman’s head, flanks and stomach. He finished Altman with a reverse sidekick that bounced him off the cage and back into Cung’s awaiting fist - it was a total Tony Jaa style move. After which, Cung gave big props to Sanshou.
We were seated on the floor, right next to the glory entrance ramp. Our publisher, Gigi, who Cung sometimes refers to as ‘mom’ since she sponsored him for many fights early in his career (we still make his robes), gave Cung the high five as he entered the cage. She says she’s Cung’s good luck charm because he’s won every fight that she’s attended.
Shamrock defeated Gracie in 21 seconds. He cut loose a series of rights punches that took Gracie with blinding speed. The ref had to pull him off from drilling Gracie’s head to the floor with punches. It was too fast to be entertaining, but you got to respect that kind of efficiency.
I’ve seen a lot of MMA video, but this was the 1st legally-sanctioned bout in CA outside of Indian reservations. I was surprised how much stand up fighting there was - Jackson vs. Ortiz was littel more than a boxing match. I expected more groundwork. But on the whole, it was very satisfying.
what kind of a matchup was that? frank had had 28 fights prior - At age 40, that was cesar’s first fight…
Didn’t that particular Gracie member issue a challenge to Shamrock via the internet… a broad challenge which took a few years to come to fruition?
once again a shamrock proves the gracies arent all they are cracked up to be. 
When fighters win by such a large margin I don’t think it’s necessarily because they are so good. I think (suspect) that they are actually picking much lesser opponents.
I don’t know anything about the fight business but does anyone here know anything about this. People never seem to question how good of an opponent someone has when they win.
Mike Tyson knocked out loser after loser (for a long time) and everyone thought he was great. The few times he fought someone decent he either went the distance and got a decision (in an uninteresting fight) or lost badly.
Ray Pina is right. Cesar talked smack and issued the challenge. I don’t fault Shamrock for taking it. I do fault him for saying that this would put an end to the Shamrock/Gracie feud…Cesar isn’t good enough to end that.
And I heard Cesar isn’t a real Gracie. i heard he married a Gracie daughter and took her name. Anyone else hear that too?
nah - that was just a mismatch from the start. a guy with 28 fights and a championship under his belt would be a laughing stock if he lost to a guy who was having his first fight and is 7 years older than him…
umm… 44 of tyson’s 50 wins were by KO… so he only beat 6 decent fighters? michael spinks was undefeated until tyson KOed him in round one. his record was 31-1…
however, you are right in your assumtion about why some fighters easily beat others. They fight “tomato cans” for experience in preparation for bigger fights.
… Or he would just bite them.
mismatches
Personally, I felt the last two bouts were a bit manipulative. Cung and Frank, the two local champs from San Jose, were favored to win and they did. The audience got their bread and circuses. I’d say that the bulk of the audience were not martial artists. They booed whenever there wasn’t obvious action and showed a general naivete about what was happening in the cage. But hey, what do you expect?
For me personally, well, I love to watch Cung fight always, of course, but the two fights I enjoyed more were Crafton Wallace vs. Raymond Routh and the lightweight Championship bout between Josh Thompson and Clay Guida.
Wallace was more of a kicker/puncher, while Routh was always going for the takedowns and ground moves. Wallace won, mostly by picking Routh off as he tried to enter. Strategically, that bout was fascinating to watch.
Thompson was another San Jose local, so the crowd was fired up, plus being a championship bout, it was a 5 x 5. Guida managed to cut up Thompson in the first round, and maintained dominence on the mount, trapping Thompson in the corners. However, Thompson was tough and kept finagling these remarkable reversals. I kept hoping he could recover, but he’d only get a few shots off until Guida would get on top of him again. Guida was pounding him with punches and elbows to the head, working those cuts and nearly closing up Thompson’s eye. But Thompson went 5, to his credit. Even though he lost, I admire his tenacity.
Jose Palacios was supposed to fight too, but for some reason didn’t show. His opponent, Sean Bassett, walked into the cage with fanfare, then left, leaving the crowd befuddled.
Even if it was a bit manipulative I am quite glad that Cung won.
Now Sanshou/San Da has representation in MMA that hasn’t just gotten arm-barred out. I would have loved to see Cung kick the crap out of his opponent and from what I hear he wasn’t exactly a tomato can anyway.