Good Internal Power in Wing Chun

Enterthewhip - Who and what is in Toronto? I know a few of you guys on this board are.

Black&Blue - I see a lot of people who get upset assuming I am talking about them. I honestly dont know most of you or how you train, I am just speaking from personal experience.

Originally posted by red5angel
Enterthewhip - Who and what is in Toronto?
No one and nothing you can handle mentally or physically.

I see whipping hand is back in full form…

I have already mentioned to a few torontoites that I want to make a trip up there, probably not until next year though. Plenty of people up there to visit and hangout with, do a little chi sau, etc…

No one and nothing you can handle mentally or physically.

lol… Whats the point of your posts?

Black and blue asks:Yuenfen - are you hotting up for an online arguement with Red?

Who me? No way Jose. I am always mindful of two of Murphy’s kuen kuits.

  1. never argue with a red angel- people may not know the difference.

  2. Never leapfrog an unicorn.

black and blue sez:
Ps. Toronto - A city with no soul.

black and blue- Why?
do they lack the delights of Ingles soul food like kidney pie?

Toronto WC instructors

Sunny Tang
Brian Lewadney
Dominique Emond
Mario Hetu
Trenton Haggard

Among others are there. Who do you study with “whip”?

Originally posted by EnterTheWhip
No one and nothing you can handle mentally or physically.

Hi Dave,

Two students of Yip Man – Ho Kam-Min (I believe mostly privately these days) and Fung Hon (Stewart Fung) are also in TO. Roy D. Anthony from this forum. I think there are TWC and WT reps there as well (unless your list included them).

Also two grandstudents of Sum Nung – Chow Kwok-Tai and Henry Lo.

And Toronto has a soul. Montrealers brought it there during the Great Exodus :wink:

RR

The great exodus

The bowel movement of jah peeple…oh oh oh yeah
Exodus:cool:

Red5angel

When you refer to other schools as not being very good, I wonder whether you think this because they may be more external than what you practice.

There are two extremes of W.C. Very internal and very external. The internal has its benefits and so does the external. A more internalised system personally suits me. For my friends at the school where I used to practice the external way suits them more. I have tried to explain our way of doing things to them but they are not interested.

People who want to practice doing thousands of punches and more strenuous w.c work outs are not wrong. They see the benefit in what they are doing for their health and fighting ability. They enjoy what they are doing or else they wouldn’t be doing it. In the school I practice in there is no physical excercise at all, so if you want to get fit you would need to do it in your own time.

In my youth I had done karate for 10 years until I was 18 years old and boy was I strong! I was fast, fit, and flexible. I didn’t have the technical knowledge that I have now though. Now I am a bit over weight but enjoing the system I am doing none the less.

In short one has to weigh up the benefits of each different way. The way that someone choses is never wrong because it is suited to there personality, character or perhaps body type.

Sunkuen - Be nice, or no more poutine and Celine Dion CDs… :wink:

RR

Miles Teg - Its a good point that you make but I do not believe this is it. I will state however that I do believe internal is the way to go. I say this because wing chun has always been taughted as an art for small people and women and something you can practice into old age effectively. This cant be done from the external perspective as the external training recquires you have some athletic ability. Internally anyone can get it if they apply themselves.
The problems I have are in some of the basic mistakes people are training. No structure, no rooting, no precision, things like that.

Them Thars Fightin’ Werds Renn!!!

Don’t ever, I repeat EVER think of messin’ with my poutine dude…EVER!!!:mad:

As for Celine…Didn’t she sink with the Titanic???:confused:

What the heck is poutine?!

poutine??

it’s amazing, exciting and the REAL way that french fries are supposed to be eaten. All you other mofo’s don’t even come close, TRUST ME. Now I’m not speaking for the poutine people, but I’ve been ALL around the world (read: my province) testing out different people’s ways of eating fries, and lemme tell you, if you want to taste the REAL DEAL, then you have to come and try it. There will be a seminar for you to come and sample some if you want, I could even put you up in my house if you wanted.
I’m just trying to spread the word and save thousands of people from eating french fries the WRONG way…
oh, by the way, last week was the first time I ever tried poutine but TRUST ME…
I’m the sunscreen.

Poutine?..

There it is!..
It is actually not as bad as it looks! :wink:

WOW! that stuff cannot be good for you cholesterol!

Celine Dion?..

there it is!..
It is actually worse than it looks!..:rolleyes:

One is bad for the cholesterol,the other for your nerves!..:eek: :wink:

now back to our regular schedule program…

I think the beauty of internal practice is it becomes accessible by anyone and everyone! You can go external if you want but it would seem to me you would be going against some of the basic tenets of wing chun? Muscular power is limited, by genetics, by age, by many factors.
I look at it this way, instead of having to waste time lifting weights, doing strength training, I can spend the time actually trianing my art. You figure that you spend an hour a day on strength training, because you will have to to increase you level of skill in an external way, that hour could be spent honing your martial ability instead. This goes right along with all things wingchun! Now small people can use it to great effect, as well as people who are starting to feel thier age.