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On the subject of Monty P and the Holy Grail
Arthur: (very angry) BE QUIET! I order you to be quiet!
Woman: “Order”, eh, 'oo does 'e think 'e is?
Arthur: I am your king!
Woman: Well I didn’t vote for you!
Arthur: You don’t vote for kings!
Woman: Well 'ow’d you become king then?
(holy music up)
Arthur: The Lady of the Lake-- her arm clad in the purest shimmering samite, held aloft Excalibur from the bosom of the water, signifying by divine providence that I, Arthur, was to carry Excalibur. THAT is why I am your king!
Man: (laughingly) Listen: Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government! Supreme executive power derives from a mandate from the masses, not from some… farcical aquatic ceremony!
Arthur: (yelling) BE QUIET!
Man: You can’t expect to wield supreme executive power just 'cause some watery tart threw a sword at you!!
Arthur: (coming forward and grabbing the man) Shut UP!
Man: I mean, if I went 'round, saying I was an emperor, just because some moistened bint had lobbed a scimitar at me, they’d put me away!
Aikido, Judo, traditional Japanese Jujutsu, esp. Dan Zan Ryu. The last two are the roots of BJJ and I like 'em better. The Gracie 'tude has always just rubbed me the wrong way. I’m sure it’s really great, but I’d rather stick with budo.
This is Tony Cecchine’s website. Tony is probably the best Catch-as-catch-can wrestler in the world today. I bought his premium package of video tapes about 10 months ago - (although I had first been exposed to catch many years ago). Tony’s tapes are awesome.
I have great respect for jiu jitsu and other grappling arts…but catch wrestling is the best grappling I’ve ever seen.
I’ve been doing wing chun for 28 years now - and catch mixes very well with it.
I’ve been studying CMA for 10+ years, and I study BJJ for ground fighting. I found the relationship between the 2 very nice. I have used my knowledge of concepts, such as the interplay of yin and yang, to better understand how to break down structure and position to attack on the ground. You can of course learn this without that knowledge, but it has helped me connect the dots so to speak. I have also used it as an opportunity to learn how to defend the takedown better. Ground fighting doesn’t always mean that you are pulling guard. It could mean, amongst other possiblities, you have your knee on a guy’s stomach pounding shyte out of him.
The limitation for most people with chin na is that if they don’t perform the hold/break on the first try, they’re usually out of position to continue with it. I look at chin na as situational, and not a “system” of fighting so to speak. I think Chin na can be effective, but it def. is a limited idea in regards to ground fighting/grappling.
On the whole if you end up on the ground you deserve what you get thing: If you wind up on the ground, and you don’t know how to escape, possibly switch positions, or finish your opponent from what may seem a bad position, then you deserve what you get. For me, a scraped up back is better then being pinned on the ground, and having the crap beaten out of me.
I train in ground fighting. Whenever someone asks why, I tell them it’s for the same reason I train self-defense to begin with – because things happen whether I want them to or not.
People train self-defense to be prepared. Train ground fighting to be prepared for that.
Saying you won’t end up on the ground could be thought of as saying that you’re the greatest fighter in the world and that no one can take you down.
I had a few years of Ryukyu Okinowan Karate. I studied kyoshu Jutsu, Tuite Jutsu, and a third one I can’t remember (lol it was about 10 yrs ago). These were the grappling styles incorporated into the Karate I took. Now I study Wing chun and Taiji, however I think that the Okinowan Karate I took was a good system, and I think it has lots of good grappling, both standing up and on the ground. Here is an info link if anyone is interested. Since I am so out of practice on these techniques I can not say that it will blend well with wing chun. I do remember some of the simpler techniques and those tend to blend just fine.
