Forms

[QUOTE=YouKnowWho;1039090]I’ll consider the following clip “good form”. A good form should be very pleasant to watch.

http://johnswang.com/LF1.wmv
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reminds me of Alex Kwok from Canada

[QUOTE=TenTigers;1059107]reminds me of Alex Kwok from Canada[/QUOTE]

I think that was him. I met him and his Kung Fu brother Johnny Lee in a Dallas Karate tournament. That was when they just came to US during the year that Bruce Lee just dies.

[QUOTE=YouKnowWho;1039090]You need to watch somone who can do a good form first. Without understanding what a good form suppose to look like, it’s difficult to do a good form yourself. I’ll consider the following clip “good form”. A good form should be very pleasant to watch.

http://johnswang.com/LF1.wmv

There are 3 stages of learning a form.

  • copy your teacher (or senior students)
  • polish by your teacher (or senior students)
  • add personal flavor (by yourself only)

Many things need to pay attention when you train your form.

  • When your body move, all body parts move. When your body stop, all body parts stop at the same time.
  • Your eyes should always follow your “major” hand.
  • Use slow move to set up fast move. Don’t throw 3 punches in the same speed, use slow, fast, fast, or …
  • Try to use exponational speed instead of linear speed.
  • Use the end of the previous move to set up the beginning of the next move.
  • Always use your body to pull your limbs.
  • Always train your form in “combat speed” and never train your form in “slow speed”.[/QUOTE]

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I disagree with your last point. NOTHING gave me more improvement than training my forms super slow with focus on body mechanics.

I treat form as testing, and I treat drills (break form apart) as training. If I want to “focus on body mechanics”, I do that in my drills training instead. I like to use form to test my speed, power, balance, endurance, flexibility, … in combat speed. If I can still perform my form in combat speed when I’m 80 years old, my health shoulde still be OK. If I have to “slow down” my form when I’m 80, then I know my body may not be in as good shape as I think, and may be I should stay away from those 20 years girls a little bit more.

[QUOTE=Royal Dragon;1059114]Reply]
I disagree with your last point. NOTHING gave me more improvement than training my forms super slow with focus on body mechanics.[/QUOTE]

You do know that the mechanics for doing somethign fast and doing something slow are NOT the same right?

To do forms better, break them down into their parts, understand those parts, then reassemble and disassemble as desired.

The true secret is not a secret at all, it’s just practice, keep practicing.

but extrapolation helps you to understand what in the form you are doing.

break each combo out, try it alone, try it on a heavy bag or mitts in a drill, get to know how your body performs it optimally, do it that way in the form.

At the base level, it’s all the same. It just seems different because speed adds momentum.

oh yeah, and I forgot…
“save the trees, eat a beaver.”

[QUOTE=Royal Dragon;1059124]At the base level, it’s all the same. It just seems different because speed adds momentum.[/QUOTE]

no, it also changes the entire dynamics of global postural function, proprioception and visual / vestibular integration;

what works best for me is to do it a lot slowly until the movemennts are in my muscle memory then I start picking up speed.

form

I think he is talking about learning and performing the moves of a form correctly, not sure he is too worried about the functions of his inner ear right now.

Stretch well, warm up well,
STAY RELAXED, DON’T MUSCLE THE MOVES.
Concentrate on hip movement, how the power is being generated, proper foot alignment in your stance and transitional movement.
Go slow, don’t worry about power and speed right now, that will come with time.
Get the moves in your muscle memory, slowly increase power and speed.
Master the proper techniques(moves).
you can also train it in your mind, close your eyes and perform the moves in your head.
the more you train your form the better it will get.

18elders, I started going through my form during meditation and before sleeping. That’s what helped me find some of my flaws

Greetings,

The late James Dean had a similar performance problem while he was working in the film GIANT.

There was an outdoor scene that was being watched by a throng of people and James Dean could not get his lines right. He just kept messing up. So he got fed up and addressed the problem his own way. He unzipped his pants in front of hundreds of observers and took a leak. He then zipped up his pants and got through the scene on the first take.

How to use this?

Deliberately perform your worst performance and then understand that you are a lot better than that. That worst performance will take the edge off.

mickey

[QUOTE=taai gihk yahn;1059138]no, it also changes the entire dynamics of global postural function, proprioception and visual / vestibular integration;[/QUOTE]

Sure, if your mechanics suck, and you have to cheat by doing it wrong when you move with speed.

Pak mei trains its forms like windsprints. Anaerobic.

Best advice, when in doubt do it again. Nothing cerebral will solve a physical issue better than practice. Sure you can explain it cerebrally, but why bother with the middleman.

Also, never work on new stuff until you have done all of your old stuff. If you don’t have enough time, then you are learning too much. Its that discipline that forces the reps on the basic stuff, its process, not choice.

Well my form is deffinetly coming along good. I got maybe four more moves? I was practicing last night and noticed when I go through it I watch my hands and feet…when I started looking where I was supposed to it actually improved it more than I thought. The progress feels great… Kung Fu ftw