I want everyone who trains quite a bit tell me what they do when they train.
I want you to tell me all the little things you do and how you do them…
…I am sure this wil bring some descussion to this almost dead forum…
NOTE:Dave dont lock this this is a serious post.
[This message was edited by Sihing73 on 07-29-01 at 07:18 PM.]
Anyways…thanks man…
I train whenever I have free time and feel like it. I don’t have a schedule or routine because I can’t stick to it.
what I do varies depending on what I feel like doing, but almost always I’ll do 45 min. to an hour of chain punching straight.
I mostly drill what I do in class by myself. from what I’ve seen it’s these repetitions that makes a big difference.
I have a heavy bag, but I only use that for kicks.
other than that, it’s the usual leg lifts, push ups, crunches and squats. I don’t use weights. my teacher said it restricts chi.f
well i dont know very much but i train according to what i learnt in my classes before moving
i jog for 3min , then do about 50 squats ,
i do sil lim tao once then practice the four gates,blocking, then blocks with punches,thats all i really know but i try to practice everyday.
but now i’m really making a effort to do some wing chun everymoment i’m not doing something else
nelson
training…
in class, i do sil lum tao, qwan sao, tan da, biu da, etc. then, i do the stepping and punching and the moving tan da. after, i practice single hand chi sau by myself and do double hand chi sau stuff. i do kicking somewhere in between too and go back and do whatever is needed later.
hey joe, i get to stay. my friend's now taking me during sunday classes. :p talk to you guys later.
That is good to here…
I should have added what do you guys do at home alone and in class?
at my school, most of the class are beginners, so they mostly do drills on techniques in SLT. The advanced students do chi sau. only after my teacher thinks we’ve done well at these stages will we actually do sparring. or actually sparring occurs occasionally, when my teacher wants to know how much we’ve learned.
one thing I forgot to mention about my home training, practicing the SLT. I normally just practice to remember, I don’t see it as really training. Forms are the textbook, the drills and sparring are the practice books.m
at my class we start with half an hour doing forms then do lots of chain punching, turning punches, turning tan da etc then lots of kicking and stepping. Then we do all the basic blocks in pairs and different applications for each the finish off with dan chi, lap sau and chi sau.
We also sometimes do a bit of sparing if a few people want too.
Everyone goes through all the forms they know. Then more forms for the beginners. Everyone else, chisao, chisao, chisao, until the end of the lesson.
Then chisao some more. 
“Computer games don’t affect kids; I mean if Pac-Man affected us as kids, we’d all be running
around in darkened rooms, munching magic pills and listening to repetitive electronic music.” 
training
my personal training revolves around 3-4 runs per week, stamina and shuttles.
forms every day. weights all supersets, on major muscle groups only.
bagwork and wooden man training 2 times a week.
chi-sau sections and free 2 times a week and sparring when ever i can.
my students follow the same class breakdown at every class:
warm up
forms 15 mins
applications 15 mins
spar drills 15 mins
pad work grades 1-4 or chi-sau grades 5 - black badge 15 mins
and 15-20 mins free sparring for everyone
warm down. go home or grab a beer.
and by the way weights do not inhibit chi flow.
my chi-gung advisor is a retired power lifter.
Big Vern. hit like a rhino, sleep like a sloth.
In class, we start with SLT, then break into groups depending on skill levels. Since I’m a newbie we usually will do advancing steps, lead arm defences, kicks, and forms/applications. Then we do lat sao training with our senior students.
At home, I start SLT, then I try to practice what I have learned and been practicing in class to reinforce the muscle memory, then I end the session with 500-1000 chain punches.
‘…and China is still serving rice in Tibet!’
well, there’s training in the kwoon and training at home. In the kwoon, I do whatever the teacher tells me to do, knowing it is appropriate and necessary for my level of instruction.
At home, I usually do the forms, punching and kicking on the bag, and lots of stretching and balance exercises (mostly while I’m watching TV). Basically, I try to walk through my day and look at everything I do to see if there is an opportunity to better my body. Like, I’ll bike to the store instead of driving. I’ll walk up starirs instead of taking the elevator. When I’m hanging outside on a break, I will stretch some. etc etc. I’m getting pretty good at suggesting weekend things to my friends that involve some kind of physical activity. 
Frank Exchange~That sounds like some classic hong kong training there…thats good to hear!
Cho~ “I don’t see it as really training. Forms are the textbook, the drills and sparring are the practice books”
Forms are everything from my prespective.I know how you say that you only do them to remember the movements,but there is way more to them then that.
You need to think about your body more,aswell as your footwork.When you do SLT you train your stance,when you train CK you train to move your stance that was once stationary.There is a term in the prespective of Chum Kui called bridging the gap…well it isnt only the gap between you and the opponant,it is the gap between you and the ground.
Now to Bui Jee…
…BJ teaches you to get out of emergencies,when your in positions such as being off balance ,up rooted,or out of position.Now sure you may look at it as being just some moves and now you know them so now you drill them…nono it isnt that way,you have to train train train all the forms,but in the Bui Jee form you are teaching your ma(stance) to be able to move in odd positions.And that is why it is the most advanced of the open hand forms,mainly because it is the hardest to preform.
But personaly I think that SLT is the most important.You train it all in that one…
It may be simple but you can be alot better at your wing chun if you can just stick to those forms.
Joe Kavey
Is this wushu or wing chun?
that wushu wing chun thing was to Jas by the way…
Hey Joe.
Yep, the last few times weve been to Hong Kong, I was pleasantly surprised to see we train in the same informal manner. Particularly at the VT Association in Kowloon.
Agree with you about SLT. Definitely the foundation, the dictionary, upon which all things are built.
“Computer games don’t affect kids; I mean if Pac-Man affected us as kids, we’d all be running
around in darkened rooms, munching magic pills and listening to repetitive electronic music.”
Martial Joe: wing chun, wiseguy 
Think about it for a sec - I have to use the natural advantages of my physiology. I will rarely if ever be stronger than my attacker, so I must be faster and more accurate. To have speed and accuracy I must have excellent body control. And to have excellent body control I must have a lot of flexibility, endurance and balance. So, I keep very limber and I do things that build up my endurance and balance.
If I can stand on one leg, kick the crap out of your knees with the other while chainpunching the beejezus out of your face with my fists and still have enough wind left to sprint like hell once your butt touches the ground, I get out alive and I win.
Plus, being limber means its tough as heck to get a jointlock on me, just ask the guys when we train chin na
Joint-lock..Chin Na..Flexibility
Just like to say about the limber thing… I do yoga as well as wing chun, and the guys really can’t joint lock me that well either…
There’s something to be said for flexibility
Peace…
Guys stop I am going to start stretching in my computer chair…
IXIJoe KaveyIXI
I train
Hey there,
I train daily, and my training is serious, and normally solo. I don’t know how much benefit I can be to you without more specifics, as I am a JKD and JJ man, really. However, there are many parallels to Wing Chun, so I’ll give you some general principles:
I cannot overstate the importance of supplemental training, such as running, weights, calisthenics, and stretching. Such training regimes are what separates the world champion kickboxers, boxers, karate men, etc, from the rest of martial art-dom.
Simplify your technique body. Reduce the number of techniques you train, otherwise you cannot achieve any depth with what you have.
Work a technique, tactic, etc (or 2), for several consecutive sessions before switching to something else. Press toward depth in your technical/tactical ability
Train for speed in movement. Work on relaxation and explosiveness for more speed.
Work in front of a mirror. Check your telegraphing, check your head and neck position, hip alignment, fluidity, etc – and remember to retract all blows quickly.
Train for power. Hit a combination of targets – not just one. Hit a heavy bag, a wall bag, a punching post (or mook jong), focus mitts, and just air. Any one of these alone will either lead to limited power (eg. air), or limited speed (eg. heavy bag).
Shadow box. Shadow boxing is more than just hitting the air – its either
a. forms practice
b. visualization training
Hope some of this is helpful. Feel free to emailmbarsotti@ara-sa.com