I think the 100/0 can be used effectively, ive tried to pull a guy out of the 100/0 before and couldn’t (before i learnt about structure)..so im sure it can work.
My preference is 50/50 becasue I feel its more attacking, and the 100/0 is more defensive. I think you should learn to use both (becasue they are both in our forms, the 100/0 is in CK)
Although id say i use 50/50 99% of the time, i find its easier to move and keep the pressure on in this stance (stick with the centre)
i think if you stick to the basics and continue with your solo one handed drills,(preferably blindfolded so as not to scare yourself with your amazing self rooting power) which are odviously your forte, you’ll be all that plus a bit more in no time.
LOL!!.. Thanks of the laugh so early in the morning vts.
Rill… i think you’re misinterpreting some of the ideas behind the 50/50 stance. When you kick from a 50/50 stance you sound like you are commiting some of your weight at your opponent (trying to get more power from the kick??)…i think you’ll find if you are keeping your stance on while kicking, you are doing a 100/0 stance! (if your weight isnt going through your supporting leg, then where is it going? …gravity is gravity)
It is possbile to still use the whole body mass without commiting your weight. I agree with who said it’s more mobile in a 50/50 stance.
Originally posted by S.Teebas
It is possbile to still use the whole body mass without commiting your weight. I agree with who said it’s more mobile in a 50/50 stance. [/B]
i agree with the 1st sentance, however not the 2nd one:)
50/50 is VERY mobile indeed, but i’d like to say 0/100 is just as mobile
have you ever done any chi gwun? (chi sau with the pole?) the cat stance used in the pole form, which we also use doing this drill is EXTREMELY mobile; for lunging in close, and darting backwards; moreso than either 50/50 or 100/0 in chi sau, when it comes to darting at least
the cat stance is a 0/100 (at least for us)
i’d like to think that both the 0/100 and the 50/50 could approach this kind of mobility (however you have to sacrifice some as both are more rooted than the cat stance IMHO)
i think that to reach optimum efficiency of footwork and stance, 50/50 and 0/100 probably have to be blended a little in use; perhaps theyre just two paths to the same goal?
we keep our feet shoulder width apart, or so; how wide is your 50/50 stance?
Hey people, are we doing maths or Wing Chun here? Stances change all the time in the same manner that the conditions in any combat situation change. Flexibility and adaptibility are the overriding considerations, NOT a conscious decision to put “X” amount of weight over any given leg. Both methods have merit, as do every possibility in between (eg: 60/40, 30/70, etc)…it all depends on the moment. Don’t limit yourself to any single close-minded idea, …try them all, find what works best for you, …and then make it WORK when you need it. Within ALL the forms, a variety of possibilities exist: 50/50 in SNT, anywhere between 50/50 and 0/100 in CK, and so on. Forget the mathematics debate and do the training. It would be time better spent.
Regards to All (and no offence meant)
DMP
Most of the experienced WC guys I have spoken to would agree with YuanFen and David Peterson. However, when learning you tend to learn a set way of doing it - once you start training all sorts of dynamics come into play as I found last night - to my aching cost.
The weight distribution issue seems to be a guide to help the novice such as me. I get the impression if you have developed a good root the weight issue becomes largely irrelevant.
You know I wish there was an instantaneous method of developing good root - the type where you could snap 2 fingers and wallah (R5A ) and it happens. Truth is there isn’t and you have to work at it! - whoops sorry just a loud personal thought that carries a lot of fristration and realization that my own WC sucks. I’ll get over it!
Most of the experienced WC guys I have spoken to would agree with YuanFen and David Peterson.
Yuanfen and David Petersen are two of the most experieced people on this forum.
However, it is likely that red5angel will utter “WALLAH” and point out the flaws in their approaches, and advise them on the proper way to go about training. He should probably email JKD’s favorite son Emin Boztepe as well.
""Yuanfen and David Petersen are two of the most experieced people on this forum.
However, it is likely that red5angel will utter “WALLAH” and point out the flaws in their approaches, and advise them on the proper way to go about training. He should probably email JKD’s favorite son Emin Boztepe as well.“”
LOL
I strive for 50/50, however when absorbing, chasing, turning, intercepting, getting thumped :mad: . My stance changes, I am human.
I can stand on one leg on the bathroom scales and double my body weight and, if on the street, an attacker chooses to push me from the front onto my palms gradually so I can sink into my stance it may be the strategy I adopt, however if my attacker isn’t so helpful I would prefer the ability to move in any direction having a small frame and “boyish good looks” I dont want to absorb any kind of attack, I favour mobility.
“absorb what comes, escort what leaves and run like f uck if you get the chance” - the only “street” advice I would give anyone.
i think you’ll find if you are keeping your stance on while kicking, you are doing a 100/0 stance! (if your weight isnt going through your supporting leg, then where is it going? …gravity is gravity)
I probably wasn’t real clear on this - I was referring to moving forward with the kick so your mass is pushing it, rather than just supporting it. I think Frank Exchange mentioned on the newer thread that you’re always looking to move forward with your kick, so your weight is never transferred on to your back leg because it’s being pushed forwards.
One of the things I’m not quite sure if you can do with a 0/100 stance is kick against something that doesn’t move, like a wall. Specifically, I’d like to know if you end up pushing yourself backwards when you’re doing this, or if it’s negated by your root - this isn’t a problem with a 50/50 stance.
Any answers appreciated.
Again, not wishing to revive the original thread…
On a side note, I’d like to know why ‘root’ isn’t censored. I think it’s a shameful display of a complete lack of acceptance of multi-cultural slang. Shame on them.
Originally posted by Rill
One of the things I’m not quite sure if you can do with a 0/100 stance is kick against something that doesn’t move, like a wall. Specifically, I’d like to know if you end up pushing yourself backwards when you’re doing this, or if it’s negated by your root - this isn’t a problem with a 50/50 stance.
Any answers appreciated.
well to have a somewhat intellegent answer from someone who isnt r5a with the rearweighted stance, kicking wallbags/walls goes right down through your leg; just like what should happen when you punch. theres a connected line of structure between the bottom of your foot, and the floor
in fact, kicking with the rearweighted stance is practically the same as punching, except for the fact your using a leg:)
if your pushed backwards by kicking the wall in a rearlegged stance, your stance aint no good and neither is your kick and you need some work
