"ALBANY, N.Y. (AP) - Opponents of the fiscally conservative tea party movement say they plan to infiltrate and dismantle the political group by trying to make its members appear to be racist, ****phobic and moronic.
Jason Levin, creator of http://www.crashtheteaparty.org, said Monday the group has 65 leaders in major cities across the country who are trying to recruit members to infiltrate tea party events for April 15tax filing day, when tea party groups across the country are planning to gather and protest high taxes.
“They can’t actually debate our message and that’s their problem,” said Bob MacGuffie, a Connecticut organizer for Right Principles, a tea party group that also has members in New York and New Jersey.
The tea party movement generally unites on the fiscally conservative principles of small government, lower taxes and less spending. Beyond that the ideology of the people involved tends to vary dramatically.
Levin says they want to exaggerate the group’s least appealing qualities, further distance the tea party from mainstream America and damage the public’s opinion of them.
“Do I think every member of the tea party is a ****phobe, racist or a moron? No, absolutely not,” Levin said. “Do I think most of them are ****phobes, racists or morons? Absolutely.”"
“Buffalo’s Carl P. Paladino was scrambling to save his Republican candidacy for governor Monday after a local Web site released a string of pornographic and racially degrading e-mails that he acknowledged forwarding to a large group of friends.”
"A Tea Party darling, Paladino reportedly sent an e-mail depicting a horse having sex with a woman and another that included a pornographic video and the headline ‘Miss France 2008 F[]ing.’ He also reportedly sent out an e-mail depicting President Obama and First Lady Michelle Obama as a pimp and prostitute and one showing an airplane landing near black men with the caption 'Holy Sht. run niers, run!’
After one respondent complained that the ‘Obama Inauguration Rehearsal’ e-mail was ‘flat-out racist,’ Paladino reportedly replied, ‘I apologize to you and everyone if that is offensive. to me its just humor. i’m not racist and have never related obamas color to my political distaste for him.’
The Buffalo News reports that Paladino did not deny sending the e-mails at an event today. He called them ‘just another liberal Democrat blog smear.’"
Three Democratic congressmen — all black — say they heard racial slurs as they walked through thousands of angry protesters outside the U.S. Capitol. A white lawmaker says he heard the epithets too. Conservative activists say the lawmakers are lying.
What does the video show? Not much. Indeed, new interviews show that a much-viewed YouTube recording cited as evidence by conservatives was actually shot well after the time in question.
Yes I suppose when you do enough ass hat things that you finally realize that you are a huge ass hat, then being an ass hat and stuck in your ass hat ways you will naturally tend towards blaming someone else for your funky stew of ass hat actions. lol
No one needs to infiltrate the tea party to make them look like idiots and ass hats. They’re doing a great job all by themselves.
Bah its just a tea party counter intelligence operation. This Jason Levin (a Jewish name :rolleyes:) is obviously a fake persona as is the website. All set up to blame liberals on any unsavory acts that come out of their own party. Ingenious. Ask yourself this why you would you make a public announcement that you plan to secretly undermine the tea party, how does that advance your cause?
they need an excuse for all the racists, ill educated, throwbacks that are naturally attracted to throwing in with their ranks.
The problem with the tea party movement is that it is artificial and created by fox news and desperate americans who want to be on the Glenn Beck show so they can cry and eat a sandwich at the same time! lol:p
[QUOTE=SanHeChuan;1005231];)Bah it’s just a tea party counter intelligence operation. This Jason Levin (a Jewish name :rolleyes:) is obviously a fake persona as is the website. All set up to blame liberals on any unsavory acts that come out of their own party. Ingenious. Ask yourself this why you would you make a public announcement that you plan to secretly undermine the tea party, how does that advance your cause? :p[/QUOTE]
And you liberals call us conspiracy theorists. :rolleyes:
Desperation is why this idiot is doing what he is doing.
[QUOTE=David Jamieson;1005245]The problem with the tea party movement is that it is artificial and created by fox news and desperate americans who want to be on the Glenn Beck show so they can cry and eat a sandwich at the same time! lol:p[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=1bad65;1005254]Desperation is why this idiot is doing what he is doing.[/QUOTE]
Desperation? The tea party is a greater threat to republicans than it is to Democrats.
Desperation doesn’t happen until you’re out of power.
Where does this fantasy desperation come from?
[QUOTE=1bad65;1005255]We will see how artificial it is in November. ;)[/QUOTE]
You do realize the quite apart from our differing views on politics the fact is.. we can certainly both do the math.
The tea party folks push the GOP further to the right. This makes them (on a national level) run more conservative candidates who use more conservative rhetoric. This makes them less electable in the general elections (though it does help assure they lock down their primary).
We can argue about who’s correct in ideology all day long.. but if the Left had a structurally similar movement (say a Radical Green Worker’s Party, avowing open socialism and currency controls or something) that would do the same things to the Dems.
The Tea Party is courting an electoral disaster for the GOP. Does anyone remember what happened to Perot’s “Reform Party”?
tea party is all fluff and chest puff. no substance, nothing but riff raff.
by the wayside they shall be.[/QUOTE]
Wanna put a ban bet on it?
If the Republicans don’t take either chamber, I’m banned.
If the Republicans take both chambers, you’re banned.
If we take one and not the other, it’s a push.
[QUOTE=dimethylsea;1005258]You do realize the quite apart from our differing views on politics the fact is.. we can certainly both do the math.
The tea party folks push the GOP further to the right. This makes them (on a national level) run more conservative candidates who use more conservative rhetoric. This makes them less electable in the general elections (though it does help assure they lock down their primary).[/QUOTE]
If you are correct, why do liberals/socialists always run to the center instead of saying how left they are?
Republicans always win national elections when they run conservative.
The two biggest GOP Presidential victories were won by who?
[QUOTE=dimethylsea;1005258]You do realize the quite apart from our differing views on politics the fact is.. we can certainly both do the math.
The tea party folks push the GOP further to the right. This makes them (on a national level) run more conservative candidates who use more conservative rhetoric. This makes them less electable in the general elections (though it does help assure they lock down their primary).
We can argue about who’s correct in ideology all day long.. but if the Left had a structurally similar movement (say a Radical Green Worker’s Party, avowing open socialism and currency controls or something) that would do the same things to the Dems.
The Tea Party is courting an electoral disaster for the GOP. Does anyone remember what happened to Perot’s “Reform Party”?[/QUOTE]
I’m actually curious to see how this turns out on a national level. We already saw it in microcosm last year with Doug Hoffman in NY’s 23rd District. The seat had been held by Republicans for over a century. Dede Scozzafava was seen as not conservative enough, so she was pushed out in favor of Hoffman. The result was a victory by Democrat Bill Owens.
[QUOTE=1bad65;1005265]If you are correct, why do liberals/socialists always run to the center instead of saying how left they are?
[/B] ;)[/QUOTE]
That’s precisely my point.. politicians who run like they are centrists tend to do better in the general election that people who hard to either right or left do.
[QUOTE=dimethylsea;1005281]That’s precisely my point.. politicians who run like they are centrists tend to do better in the general election that people who hard to either right or left do.[/QUOTE]
I dunno, McCain is more or less a centrist conservative.
He lost.
He could’ve won if not for Bush being put in as the front man for the GOP, It realy should’ve been McCain.
Dude probably tastes bile every time he swallows.
Poor dude has watched his party turn into a freakshow 3 ring circus.
Conservatism in America is fractured and practically dead, Overrun with Neo-con idiots who are like throw backs to the McCarthy era. Or it’s tea party whackos who want that moniker of “conservative real american” and then you have incredibly silly people like Sarah Palin deciding she’s gonna tell you who’s american and who’s not based on whether or not they throw their hat in with her?
America, you got some problems. lol
But then, so does our country. We have the same fractured conservatives here as well. Fiscally responsible, small government with strong oversight is simply not available. It’s dead.
We get martial law proponents who want the rich and wealthy to finance the corporate take over of the country because they make jobs :rolleyes:
We get the libertarians who all want to break off into little unstable nations and hide in caves with guns and bible.
We get secessionists, not unlike the breakoff libertarians, except they want to go out with a bang it seems.
and then you got your other side of the coin where you have teh exact opposite of these.
A centrist in a true sense is a rare beast and it is more because the society we live in and that political constructs we are functioning with are profoundly broken.
Sure we live longer, sure we live better, but at what cost?
