Warning: this link contains some disturbing graphic images of knife wounds.
The answer is: run.
If you mods want to move this to Reality please do, but I think it’s something everyone on this board should see, esp given light of the three fatal stabbings in two weeks in the UK: one 14 yr-old, one 15 yr-old and one 19 yr-old (not that that makes much difference).
I understand there have been 51 stabbings in the UK over the bank holiday weekend. This country is going down the drain:(
My Kali instructor always says “if someone mugs you at knife point, give them your wallet, it’s not worth dying over £20”
Where did that 1 minute 30 seconds figure come from? It’s nonsense. I also love the way they set out to debunk the myth of knife defence and then show the most unrealistic gun scenarios ever :rolleyes:
Thanks Mat, my PTSD is kicking in nicely now 
seriously though…the answer really is “run”.
while there are defensible techniques against a knife, they are too high of a percentage of likelyhood of not being able to pull them off.
there is a new device called a shock knife on teh market which has 360’s LEO training when dealing with a perp armed with a knife.
where the training used to be arm restraint tech etc, it is now along the lines of make distance between you and the knife weilder and get that gun out. If he approaches, shoot him. THat’s a valid knife defense.
and all comes from being a little shocked by a blade that isn’t rubber or wood.
a little pricy, but if you really want to have valid knife training and understanding, then finally this is the tool for it that won’t give any false securities like wooden , rubber blades or pens.
the knife is an offensive weapon.
The shock knife doesn’t seem like a good idea according to this (I know it’s bad form to link to other forums but this is useful and relevant).
Also because it’s a waste of time in most martial arts schools to spend 900 bucks on a training tool when the advice you should be giving is ‘Run’! The tried and tested soft-tip marker should do as well.
Um, a single detractor?
Ok, that’s fine, I would disagree with his assessment based on what’s been done with the RCMP/GRC use of it in canuckland here.
It has 100% turned around their training for knife weilders.
I really don’t agree that there are different models one for public and one for LEO’s, it’s the same product regardless. I think that statement is erroneous.
as for the shock, you better believe you can feel it, even when it is set to low, it will startle you.
much better than blunts and rubbers by far but I do agree it is a tad expensive, but then, if defense against attackers is your bread and butter then it’s a tax write off and that point is moot.
ie, you own a ma school, you use this device, it is a business expense and ultimately will not cost you the 900 bucks.
I don’t want to create a youtube account.
edit - ok, fine I signed up.
that shock knife is rad.
What was that brain-looking thing coming out of that guys stomach in the graphic knife wound section?
thank you iron fist, I don’t really want to sign up.
knives are easy to defend against unless its a kitchen knife or something big, theyre generally hella short.
intestines.
dude, in the right hands, a ballpoint pen can kill you dead.
with knives, you are going to get cut, period, even if you are a grand googly kai master, you will be cut.
knives and guns remove the effectiveness of any empty hand martial art.
knives by about 75% and guns remove 100% of the effectiveness of martial art.
so, if you want to learn how to kill someone, martial arts is not the effective method.
If you want to learn to do real damage, martial arts is not the way.
If you want to learn how to fight in a sportive friendly way or competitively against like minded peeps or you just wanna exercise in a way that is different from banging out 50 minutes on a treadmill and an hour of puumping iron, then martial arts is for you.
real killing practices these days do not have any emphasis on empty hand tactics which lost meaning withe the proliferation of the firearms into teh modern world.
for teh most part, what we do is keep relics alive and traditions and capatilize on a healthy way of living while having an outlet for aggression such as fighting.
just saying.
Yes, Sykes and Fairbairn spent all that time developing their systems, syphoning all that money from the war effort for development and training for something that has zero application in the real world :rolleyes:
My instructor recommends getting a collapsible baton like THIS
It fits in your pocket and gives you a reach advantage over most knives.
thats not bad … certainly better than nothing.
Never post again…that is all
LOL, I had actually considered putting that clown on ignore, but some of his sh!t just makes me laugh, and laughing is good, so I say, post on Hieronim, post on!
Anyone ever seen Karl Tanswell’s (UK head of SBGi) knife defence program entitled s.t.a.b? Its interesting…basically clinching someone with a knife. It only uses four positions. Unlike many others he has actually been stabbed a number of times and he developed this out of his experience having done years of traditional knife defences beforehand. He makes the point that if someone is going to stab you they will rairly let you see the knife first meaning that the most you can hope for when attacked is to limit the damage as much as possible and that it will be almost impossible to avoid getting cut (or indeed stabbed) altogether.
you negate the timeline they lived in. :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
nowadays, groundsoldiers have to wait until most of the kiling comes from the form of death from above.
not too mention, I’ll bet you 50 bucks a soldier spends more time with his rifle than with a knife.