Ok,
Has anyone here been Knocked out without being touched? Many people lately have laid claims of being able to do these “no touch knock outs”
Ill leave a few links, perhaps you can find more. But what really gets me is that there are only a few groups doing the pressure point stuff besides myself and the WTBA, and when they sign on to the no touch stuff it puts everything they do automatically in that catagory of a bunch of “voo-doo”. There are a few clips online…let me see if I can post some links..
Check out Ken Gullette’s site - he’s a rabid detractor of “no-touch chi voodoo magician types” - Rich Mooney et al. I’ve seen some pretty heated arguments on that forum.
Russel Stutely’s people and associates (DSI), most of the ju jitsu instructors I know, Yap Leong’s Shaolin Fists school, Paul Whitrod (Mantis), Jim Uglow’s Hung Gar and Taiji schools, thats a few off the top of my head.
Well Jim told me Erle demonstrated “no touch” work at his school once
Well it would be some search through all the titles - what is it 150 now?
Who said anything about JJ being neija? I though we were talking about pressure point work? Plenty of styles have it.
Jim told me EM had him get into a guard stance, then he waved his hands in front of Jims arms, about 6 inches away. Jim said he let his arms fall. EM told him this was a qi drainage method. Mind you, this was before all the RIch Mooney stuff, so maybe empty force was a bit more “sexy” then?
“I though we were talking about pressure point work? Plenty of styles have it”
Join the thread, im talking about no touch Knock-outs. Not pressure point striking Knock outs.
And yes the vulcan touch only works on hippies from what ive heard!
Oh! Oh!..We got carried away I suppose! It would have more to do with the “force” I presume. Can I buy a video on the “force” and…Does it only works on hippies also?..;)I want something that works on everybody.
Olg Jong, you might try to ask the guy in my avatar (YES!, “Dark Daddy” Vader). I’ve heard he’s an excellent source for Force KO’s and force butt pinching. Ah, it also works on MMA guys (Unbelievable!). He knows force chokes.
..although I really think that Royce would choke him and the whole Empire gang…
In the martial arts area, this is another exciting area. Just a swish of a hand, not even touching the opponent will cause him to become weak or even have to sit down!"
But you said: “And no the “wudang qi disruptive” forms do not work without a strike.”
But where is the Knock out claim? Read on and you will find that each method is followed up immediately by a strike, and within the same second you will find if you learn the forms.
“Each of the nine Qi disruptive methods also has a follow-up strike that will take advantage of the Qi disruptive method in the best possible way. Usually this strike is an extremely deadly strike all by itself,”
Another big difference beteween the Qi-disruption stuff and no-touch KO stuff, in the Qi dis. forms-besides the necessary followup strike, is that the motion is quick, violent, and very close to the persons body, the motion also serves to block a punch in addition to cutting the persons energy. But its really a moot point with the followup strike in the motion anyhow. In the no-touch stuff the people are standing still! The person doing the demo had their hands still, a few inches/feet from the person, and acts like they are projecting chi which causes a KO.
Even if one doesnt believe in Qi, or the concept is bogus, Erles methods will end the fight, the no-touch stuff wont.
The point is people are doing NO-touch KO’s without any sort of stike involved.(Hence NO-touch) Do you fall into this catogory BOB?
