Do you think this is right?...............

Who here thinks that FFab is a hypocrite?

Do you think it’s right for Neal Cameron to hang out at cyberkwoon as tulsawingchun and hang around doing all of his trolling and nobody seems to care that he is who is? And, he actually has convinced people there that it was all a lie? Wasn’t he banned for a reason, even if it was temporary?
I don’t believe for one second that he’s changed.

Is it fair that Royal dragon’s post about his new forum get moved and locked down when FFab promotes his site every chance he gets here and on other boards?

Moderation is good, but do you think he goes a bit too far?

The moderation on this forum is probly among the best you’re likely to find. There’s a lot of forum nazis on the net.

And to add to your list of probs with cyberkwoon:

the guy who runs this site http://www.angelfire.com/realm2/dojokaibo
runs around under the handle: “drunken_master” spreading his ignorance, and no-one seems to give a s***.

And you hardly get any quality ma related disscussions there.

I haven’t been on Cyberkwoon for ages. It is a bit dodgy that this Cameron bloke gets banned for one reason and then just let back on. But to be quite honest I quit the 'Kwoon in favour of KFO because the 'Kwoon was a bit serious for me. I still check it out though.

I really couldn’t pass too much comment on Ffab, apart from this: he has been helpful to me in the past regarding a lot of queries I’ve made. Be interesting to see what others think though.

How exactly did you all find out about Neal Cameron?

Who the hell is Neal Cameron?

Yup. WTF is Neal Cameron? Why did he get banned?

I like this forum. I like the mods. I even like the Texans:rolleyes: I come here because it serves for a bit of light relief and **** good/dodgy information sometimes! I have practised in some very politicised styles and have left them, usually without bad blood. I also like this forum because although occasionally everyone gets a kick in the verbals, generally even ‘interesting’ styles like PJO’s stay around a bit and get a fair trial, and the politics of style and offensiveness don’t get off the ground.

There are a lot of very bad martial arts around, and a lot of people who say stupid things (sorry!). Usually they get find out or elected as President.

The answer to the above questions is: Who cares… As long as they don’t **** in MY shoes…:mad:

As far as I’m aware Neal Cameron got convicted as a child molester. How everyone found that out I don’t know.

Neal Cameron is a big, fat, disgusting piece of dog crap child molestor.

His kind should not be allowed anywhere near the internet to talk to anyone esp. kids…much less should he be allowed in public to be around our kids or even breath the same air as the rest of us.

Badger

Fair comment.

I ehard Cameron was convicted of child molestation as well. As for Ffab - he does advertise quite a bit. Too much? You mean like Spam?:smiley: :slight_smile:

for the record

Neal was convicted of indecent exposure. Some at cyberkwoon will argue that this is not a sex offense. But considering that is was at two little girls I beg to differ. He was being investigated for rape and stalking but nothing has come of it yet. I for one don’t think this leopard has not changed his spots. I think it is a danger to have guys like this on internet sites that kids visit. I actually was in communication with the party that pressed the stalking charge. This is NOT hearsay.

Those of you that were here when this went down should go over there and give them a piece of your mind.

My post got locked down???

I can see him moving ot to the appropreate location, but after having it out with that Neal Cameron sympathiser, I haven’t been back to see any new comments.

The thing that bothers me, is FABB admitted to knowing about cameron’s history, and I believe he even said he was “Well aware” of his history, but then allows him to post anyway.

I found a conversation where I was actually talking to Cameron before I realized it was him. I deleted my responses to him beacuse it made me sick and nausious feeling.

You know, it’s one thing to allow a sicko like that to use your forum BEFORE you know what he is, it’s a complete other thing to allow him to use your forum when you DO know, and FABB KNOWS.

Ok, I checked on the thread

It’s NOT locked down, just moved that’s all.

The URL is http://www.cyberkwoon.com/html/modules.php?op=modload&name=Forums&file=index&action=viewtopic&topic=6623&forum=13&start=0#24761

If anyone wants to sound off on the Neal Cameron issue.

Does anyone have access to:

The newspaper article about NC holding the knife to the little girl??

The thread from the Underground where NC is defending pedophiles???

I remember reading them months ago but cant seem to find them again.

Also someone needs to post Camerons picture again so more people will know what that scumbag looks like.

Badger

Yeah, I want that stuff too

It would be good to post that stuff on Cyberkwoon just to show them what they are defending there.

I didn’t know he held her at Knife point, I though he just exposed.

You guys are wasting alot of time in such a small bull**** issue.

Get off fabbs nuts already.

Indecency with a child is no small issue.

Turning your head & looking the other way & accepting this type of behavier is why this crap even exists.

Those who defend pedophiles are ALMOST as bad as the pedophiles themselves.

Next.

Badger

How is making others aware of a known and convicted pervert/sex offender small time bull****, maybe its you who should have his head looked at for thinking it’s small time bull****, what are you french, is ffab french, isn’t that sort of small time bull**** no big deal over their.

I back up Sifu Abel 110% on this one, I have seen Neal Cameron exposed over their on more than one occasion, and nothing, zero, zip, was done about it, it’s f@ckin sick and in bad taste.

IMHO a lot of the people over their are europeanists, leftists, who are of the breed that everyone deserves another chance, if they want to break bread with that type of scumbag then they will reap the wirlwind at some point, maybe ffab will feel a bit different when some young girl or boy looking for martial art lessons or advice gets hooked up with Naplam Neal through the Cyberkwoon website and then gets hurt.

Just ban the c@cksucker.

I thought the idea of having a sex offenders list is so people can stay informed, and then either steer clear or not based on that information.

If Cameron is posting on a board, not posting his age, and posting under a screen name, how are people to make that decision?

Like Black Jack says, if someone else on Cyberkwoon, say a younger teenager was looking for sparring partners in Tulsa over the net, and they hooked up with Cameron…:confused:

Would any of the people who protect him on CK say anything to the kid? You know, like “Hey X, you know TulsaWingChun is a convicted sex offender, right?”

Don’t suppose it matters, there are plenty of people over here (KFO) that would…

Oh yeah, and since when did the term ‘Europeanist’ refer to a peadophile defender? I’m not picking a fight, I’ve honestly never heard that term before. I know you Americans are not very keen on certain Euro nations at the moment for various political reasons.

But anyway, back to the topic… interested to hear what Kung Lek has got to say. Kung Lek, would you ban him, or let him post?

Scotty1, no offense to you I hope, its just that’s what bill I think a few of those people fall into, by europeanist “I” mean someone who is very liberal, not any one specific nation, though I could point out a few.

Anti-death penalty, anti-firearm/anti-personal self defense, lax on certain serious crimes-as with France on child porn, and in a lot of cases, though I don’t think they would admit it, anti-American mindset.

I think that type of sandwhich can build the type of person who is not so against those of Neal Camerons ilk, as in give him a second chance, or “my favorite” what right do we have to show his personal information to everybody.

No offense, you brits are total badasses,:slight_smile:

Tulsa sex offender reg page for Neal:
http://www.tulsapolice.org/sexreg/c/Cameron174542.html

Fella who kicked Neal out of his Tulsa dojo for being a perv:
http://www.realkarate.com/howtojoin.htm

note the phrase in red - that used to be a link to a newspaper clipping about Neal’s fun and games, but it’s no longer active. However, the article (including a description of his knifepoint kidnap and attempted rape of an 8-year-old) can still be seen as a graphic at this URL:

http://www.angelfire.com/apes/mrpips/cameron.htm

The guy is a slug. :mad: