This is an off-shoot of the other thread. Your child comes home and complains they are being bullied. They told the teacher, as a good parent you sepak to the teacher. It happens again. Do you tell your child to end it themselves with a nice shot to the nose, or do you go through the “conventional” mediation offered at the public schools?
Old school baby, I tried using the system it doesnt work . its like the court system if works for the courts interest… not yours… do it the old fashion way. all the counciling wont like an old fashion a$$ whoopin
[QUOTE=GreenCloudCLF;915440]This is an off-shoot of the other thread. Your child comes home and complains they are being bullied. They told the teacher, as a good parent you sepak to the teacher. It happens again. Do you tell your child to end it themselves with a nice shot to the nose, or do you go through the “conventional” mediation offered at the public schools?[/QUOTE]
the first time i got bullied ( i was the new kid every year or 2 due to dads career) my pops showed me how to box a bit. so that i could stand up for myself.
the next time i got bullied i gave the kid a bloody nose and he left me alone.
yes. i told my 8 year old that if someone punches her at school again to turn around and knock them out… my dad never taught me to fight back, he taught me the christian goody two shoes, to let them strike you on the other cheek. not me, headbutt all the way, cuz if you don’t teach them while they are young, they’re likely to be a door mat for the rest of their life.
[QUOTE=uki;915455]yes. i told my 8 year old that if someone punches her at school again to turn around and knock them out… my dad never taught me to fight back, he taught me the christian goody two shoes, to let them strike you on the other cheek. not me, headbutt all the way, cuz if you don’t teach them while they are young, they’re likely to be a door mat for the rest of their life.[/QUOTE]
I was brought up to be a good christian, never had any issues myself and never been a door mat.
[QUOTE=sanjuro_ronin;915457]I was brought up to be a good christian, never had any issues myself and never been a door mat.[/QUOTE]yet how would you have dealt with an issue if it so arrived? did you live the sheltered life?
[QUOTE=uki;915459]yet how would you have dealt with an issue if it so arrived? did you live the sheltered life?[/QUOTE]
Oh yes, very sheltered !
Nah dude, I was born and raised in Europe, bounced for years and served as a peackeeper in Bosnia.
Hardly sheltered.
[QUOTE=uki;915455]yes. i told my 8 year old that if someone punches her at school again to turn around and knock them out… my dad never taught me to fight back, he taught me the christian goody two shoes, to let them strike you on the other cheek. not me, headbutt all the way, cuz if you don’t teach them while they are young, they’re likely to be a door mat for the rest of their life.[/QUOTE]
Hell must have frozen over. Uki and I agree on something. I have told my daughter, more times than I would like to count, that if she is bothered, hit em. I will be happy to go to the principal’s office and explain that the school’s inability to handle a bullying situation resulted in my child’s need to defend herself.
Now if she would just listen…
[QUOTE=GreenCloudCLF;915465]Now if she would just listen…[/QUOTE]i feel sorry for the sucker she finally pops.
[QUOTE=uki;915539]i feel sorry for the sucker she finally pops. :D[/QUOTE]
It will definitely be a “repressed rage” strike with all the force that that entails.
I don’t have any kids.
My cat has good reflexes though, and I harass him a lot, so I guess I suggest hitting the bully back…hard. Two eyes for an eye leaves the one eyed man in charge.
[QUOTE=WinterPalm;915624]I don’t have any kids.[/quote]you’re missing out.
My cat has good reflexes though, and I harass him a lot, so I guess I suggest hitting the bully back…hard.
i once was playing monkey in the middle with an empty plastic soda bottle and a pitbull, i decided to give it a slight wing on the arse with the soda bottle and the pitbull promptly turned around and bit my calf.
Two eyes for an eye leaves the one eyed man in charge.
and an eye for an eye will leave the one eyed man blind.
i have a student that’s been with me since he was 7…he’s now 10…very small kid…he’s the one i have on my youtube page doing some forms and some sparring.
he’s compact, but very small for his age…his parents are both very small, mom is about 5’ and dad is about 5’3" or so.
very good kinesthetic awareness, can replicate almost everything I show him the first time within like 80% accuracy.
but, he’s a sweet kid…and a pacifist by nature as well as nurture due to his parents ideology…
and he get’s picked on…by both boys and girls…
his mom came to me about it and wanted me to teach him how to fight back.
I made sure she realized that in schools, it doesn’t matter who starts it…everyone involved generally gets punished the same.
she didn’t care…she wanted him to fight back.
so, i talked to him some…he won’t…doesn’t want to…fight back…though he can do very well in sparring…he does better against the adults than against the 12 year old girl that’s also in class…
people are, well, people…it’s been interesting to watch him develop as a person over the last three years and hopefully he will stick with it for a while
and my hope is, to learn that it is ok to fight back sometimes.
but, if he doesn’t…if he always wants to turn the other cheek…well, that’s ok too…no my ideology but I can’t fault him if it’s his.
What I think is funny that everyone on this thread were either bullied themselves or their children have been bullied. Nobody’s kid ever starts anything…they were always protecting themselves.
In at least half of these cases the kid has the parents wrapped around their little finger.
and you’re just making yourself sound like an ass.
while there are certainly kids that start crap and then try to pass the blame, there are plenty of purely innocent kids that are getting picked on by the growing number of *******s getting their start at younger and younger ages.
[QUOTE=Oso;915660]while there are certainly kids that start crap and then try to pass the blame, [/quote]true, these children usually are the ones that grow up to either be on the high school football and wrestling teams.
there are plenty of purely innocent kids that are getting picked on by the growing number of *******s getting their start at younger and younger ages.
i agree… my daughter is a hyper-active golden dragon, a bruising tomboy of a girl, jumps on all the boys in school, yet she has a soft spot when all the “popular” girls pick on her and tease her because of her name… i believe the mentality is instigated on children and teenager geared television shows, because if you notice, in each one there is always the picked on nerdy groups and the upscale snobby groups. i believe children are high influenced by the television, this is the reason so many kids act like a walking staurday morning cartoon. i was one of the ones picked on alright… a hearing aide, glasses, from a poor family growing up, red hair, asthma, and skinny… i had no chance.
[QUOTE=Oso;915660]and you’re just making yourself sound like an ass.
while there are certainly kids that start crap and then try to pass the blame, there are plenty of purely innocent kids that are getting picked on by the growing number of *******s getting their start at younger and younger ages.[/QUOTE]
Thank you…saved me some typing.
BQ
My dad told me at a young age that if I got my a$$ whipped at school, I would get it whipped again when I got home…I was a lot more scared of him than anyone at school…so I lied:D
My stepdaughters were half Asian, and took alot of flak when they moved down here from Syracuse, and entered the new school. Hard enough being the new kids, harder still being ethnic, harder still being cute and getting the attention of the boys. Wasn’t long before they were gettin picked on by the local cliques.
They stood up for themselves, and when they took care of business, we beat the school principle to the punch. We came storming in, and demanded to know why our girls were getting picked on, and why their school could do nothing about it. I also told them that if they couldn’t protect our daughters, then they better protect their bullies, because I trained them to protect themselves, and I could give a rat’s a** about their “zero tolerance policy,” and I have a zero tolerance policy of my own. We then took our daughters out to IHOP and a movie.
We did this every time one of my girls had to defend themselves.
Later on, my eldest found a better way. She pulled “A Bronx Tale” on them. She brought these three girls into an empty classroom, and locked the door.
(“Now youse can’t leave..”)
She said,“One at a time, or all at once-either way, none of you are walking out of here!” They begged and pleaded,and cried, and she let them go. Problem solved. No teachers, no suspension,
and she still gets to go to IHOP and a movie.
(my kids are much tougher than me)
I’ve worked with kids in the past. The bullies are usually the first ones saying “I was being picked on”, “He started it” “Can’t you take a joke”
And, from my experience, if the bullies parents get involved you usually get “Little Johnny is a good kid” “He was being picked on” “The teacher is playing favorites” or “What’s the big deal” from at least half of them. These parents are also the worst when it comes to shouting, threats and name calling to the professionals there to handle the situation. Then from about half of what’s left you get various comments which all adds up to “I don’t care”.
Most good counselors that I know usually size up parents within a couple of minutes after they meet. Very few even admit their kid is a bully and fewer than that agree to do something about it.