It kinda freaked me out at first but i read some more about it . Its called Wiccai and no it’s not some super ancient style created thousands of years ago by witches. Listen just read the article. It’ll explain everything
Heres the link: http://www.dragonslist.com/articles/styles/index.php?id=61
too bad didn’t help those witches in salem!
i originally replied saying " that’s interesting " but well, it isn’t.
Never said it wasn’t stupid. Its not like i wanna go learn it. Think about it, why practice MA when you have magic 
heh, i take back what i said
good point
hmm
I sometimes talk to that guy on Dragonslist. He has some good things to say and is an interesting guy.
His style is basicaly Hung Ga but takes the animals to a bit of another level. Looks interesting from what he has told me though im not sure i would be so interested in it as err im not a pagan…
It was founded by Phoenix Pangaryk in the 1990's to meet the needs of this rapidly expanding demographic.
Well, I think that’s wonderful. And as the imaginary captain of the “Breakdancing William Shatner’s Toupee” Shakespearean Bowling Team, I wholeheartedly agree.
wow painted hung gar!, who give a f&ck?
They have no real root, they aren’t ancient, they are a bunch of hippies iwth origins in something they thought up in the 20’s.
They should let it go already. I wicca was so good, why did all of Europe convert so readilly (with the exception of the Scandinavian and slavic nations.)
The remnants of those cultures are nearly identical to the Siberian shamanic cultures. All this flower power rule of 3 is crap. Let it die. Its just bad Taoism painted European. Who cares, why not just do the Taoist arts? Better than getting it as a bad painted rumor renditioned by an unqualified teacher who renames it because he/she can’t stand with the others.
that’s all we need is a bunch of goth kids learning how to fight.
i say we kill them all right now while they are still a bunch of pussies.
“I wicca was so good” - are you trying to beatbox? heEHeEeHeEHE
sorry 
GDA, you’re right about that cum dumpster thing… regardless i better goto bed, it’s 5am, i’ve been up since 8am. it’s friday night and i went to the library at 8 and stayed there till 2am.
Go me.
'Nite
i still laugh every time i read it.
"They should let it go already. I wicca was so good, why did all of Europe convert so readilly (with the exception of the Scandinavian and slavic nations.)
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Actually, around the 13th or 14th century CE, the Christian church started a major campaign of terror against Wiccans and pagan beliefs. This was when the ideas about Satanism sprang up.
It was also when the ideas about using natural means such as herbs and things for medicine moved out of the mainstream. At this time, the healing arts in Europe moved from female and male to mostly male dominated and the quick way to get rid of someone was to accuse them of bieng a witch.
Prior to this time, the official position of the Church was that there was NO such thing as a witch or witchraft or magic. After this time, they reversed their edicts and used it to do witch hunts against Wiccans and essentially anyone who spoke out against church doctrine…like Galleleio and others. This change then gave rise to the with hunts that went on for around 300 years, the inquisitions…and a lot of bad things.
So, you ceased being a Wiccan so you didn’t have to cease being alive.
I am NOT a Wiccan…just that there was aninteresting piece on PBS radio a couple of days ago on this very topic.
As for the martial art…what a total load of BS…right up there with the guy who claims to teach authentic Aztecan martial arts and those who are now claiming that the new rebuilt Southern Shaolin is and will be the real thing…
Barnum was right.
i think the avatar is strangely complemetary of it
Indeed
It was founded by Phoenix Pangaryk in the 1990's to meet the needs of this rapidly expanding demographic
Rapidly expanding demographic? You mean the manky, greasy haired kids who wear Slipknot hoodies and trousers with crotches to their ankles thinking they are SO cool because they smell like rat sh!te?
Also - isn’t Rapidly Expanding Demographic a term a bit TOO technical for people who failed to evolve out of the 11th century.
How many of these people are there in the world? Of course not counting the people who think they are Wiccan because they have the whole 2nd series of Buffy on DVD.
Wicca
Delicate sound: Why are you so afraid of Wiccans? The majority of them are just normal people who practice a faith. As to how many people practice Wicca, millions. Of chorse thats not including the religions that are similar. Shinto has quite a few practices involved in it that are similar to Pegan/Wiccan practices. Then there are the native religions of the American indians which focus on nature and natural power/shamanism. I think that your obvious prejuduce comes from being misinformed. I personally am not a Pegan or Neo-Pegan but I do pride myself on my knowlege of religions and try to have an open mind about everything. Even though I dont know what religion you practice I can tell you that it most likely does not advocate hate. All I can say is that you are putting an awfully large amount of your energy into a prejuduce which would indicate that you have an insecurity in your own belief system.
Wicca has been around for ages.
In it’s current form, it does have a lot of practitioners who are “unclear” of it’s intent of manifestation.
At it’s root is healing and herbology. It was at one time considered “withcraft and pagan” but now is representitive of a religious choice for those who do not feel they are mainstream enought to conform to the practices of your typical run of the mill churches.
There is a lot of good information in wicca, especially in the area of herbs and medicines derived from sources around you.
How to concoct, de-concoct , make draughts and remedies much along the same lines as is found in TCM.
On the other side of the coin, there are as many who don’t know what it’s about claiming to practice it as their neo-pagan religion as there are people who do know.
Kinda like trying to find a good kung fu teacher
anyway, there is value in it, there are no martial arts associated with it and there never has been. I haven’t read the article yet, but if that statement is made then it is wholly untrue.
wicca is a path of understanding and peace and there is no room in it’s tenets for martiality.
If someone isattempting to integrate martial practice with wicca, they will face certain contradiction very soon.
peace
Re: Wicca
Originally posted by Pawa-eri-to
Why are you so afraid of Wiccans? I personally am not a Pegan or Neo-Pegan but I do pride myself on my knowlege of religions and try to have an open mind about everything. Even though I dont know what religion you practice I can tell you that it most likely does not advocate hate. All I can say is that you are putting an awfully large amount of your energy into a prejuduce which would indicate that you have an insecurity in your own belief system.
Woah! Calm down a little
I wasn’t knocking Wiccans, I was just making some jokey comments, nothing personally.
FYI, I don’t practise any religion at the moment. I used to be a stout Roman Catholic, but I’ve become a bit disorientated by it, if you know what I mean. I have no problem with other religions, I’ve dated girls who’ve been Buddhist, Athiest, C of E etc. Doesn’t bother me. I am totally open minded.
I don’t know much about it though. Enlighten me if you wish.
Ok, I just read that little snippet.
This is a made up style that someone has decided to create from their mish mash of experience.
i’m certain they would be very hard pressed to present concurrent evidence of it’s existance beyond themself.
Hung Gar is not medieval english paganism any more than wu shu is a canadian creation from the deep prairies of southern manitoba.
In other words, someone is pulling someones leg, hahahahahaha
peace
Originally posted by Kung Lek
but now is representitive of a religious choice for those who do not feel they are mainstream enought to conform to the practices of your typical run of the mill churches.
Brilliant. Kung Lek - Master of sectarian sarcasm