[QUOTE=uki;886399]i find biting highly effective in negating most grappling moves.[/QUOTE]
Do you grapple? Your statement indicates that you have not. Why would you say such a thing.
while biting may provide an irritant, it would only be for a few seconds before you were strangled unconscious due to your inability to correctly deal with the situation.
Really uki, put some thought into things. It makes for much more sensible and worthwhile discourse.
[QUOTE=David Jamieson;886410]Do you grapple? [/quote]once i lived with two jujistu friends, we combined push hands with grappling so that we began standing and allowed our pushing to turn into takedowns and grappling…
Your statement indicates that you have not.
and your assumption indicates lack of thought before assuming…
Why would you say such a thing.
because biting seems to be highly effective.
while biting may provide an irritant, it would only be for a few seconds before you were strangled unconscious due to your inability to correctly deal with the situation.
i am sorry, but something tells me that if your bicep and triceps were torn off the bone or your adams apple was biten out, ones concentration and maintaining effective grappling would be highly inconsistent…
Really uki, put some thought into things.
why would i want to do that, i am having much more fun practicing [b]no mind[/b] reponses… in confrontation or freeform, there is no thought, only action and reaction, same applies to writing and communicative skills. 
It makes for much more sensible and worthwhile discourse.
depends on for you or for me… i am enjoying my dissussions with everyone on here.
Wow, thread necro FTW
Seriously, biting might work a little bit, but it’s also gonna **** the other guy off. I don’t think your push hands / ju jitsu training exactly proves that you are able to tear out your opponents bicep or adam’s apple.
Might I suggest a trip to Bullshido.org forums, and asking for an opinion on biting as a self defense? I’m pretty sure they won’t flame you for it, go ahead… Two threads of interest:
New guy asks how to defend against grapple. Major advice: learn how to grapple. Seriously, anyone see the Cung Le / Frank Shamrock fight? Cung Le kept on his feet because of a serious amount of training doing and defending against takedowns. Don’t take my opinion for it, read on:
http://www.bullshido.net/forums/showthread.php?t=76626
Someone asks about biting as a defense against an armbar. Consensus seems to be it will result in a combination of your elbow being shattered and your face being kicked in. Check it out:
http://www.bullshido.net/forums/showthread.php?t=76600
I’m not saying this isn’t a good last resort, but to ignore grappling training because you are relying on a bite is just reckless.
[QUOTE=uki;886399]i find biting highly effective in negating most grappling moves.[/QUOTE]BWUHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAhahhahahhahhahahhahaa
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Priceless! You dragged up a seven-year old thread (like it’s the only one on grappling round here) to give a 15-years-ago-debunked answer…?
You have GOT to be kidding!
[QUOTE=uki;886412]i am sorry, but something tells me that if your bicep and triceps were torn off the bone or your adams apple was biten out, ones concentration and maintaining effective grappling would be highly inconsistent…[/QUOTE]
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The comedy continues!
Not so easy to bite once taken down and locked into side control. Those that know the position, with the shoulder jammed into the side of your face, understand this.
You can’t bite me when in your guard. And if you spent a second trying to bite my feet in my guard you’d get kicked in the face, swept, or any other a number of things that could be done to a person wasting time in serious ground.
As for beating the grappler. Oh, no one has learned this lesson better than me. If you want to beat them, join them. The skill is just too technical, too many details to wing it here and there if you are truly serious.
[QUOTE=uki;886412]once i lived with two jujistu friends, we combined push hands with grappling so that we began standing and allowed our pushing to turn into takedowns and grappling…
and your assumption indicates lack of thought before assuming…
because biting seems to be highly effective.
i am sorry, but something tells me that if your bicep and triceps were torn off the bone or your adams apple was biten out, ones concentration and maintaining effective grappling would be highly inconsistent…
why would i want to do that, i am having much more fun practicing [b]no mind[/b] reponses… in confrontation or freeform, there is no thought, only action and reaction, same applies to writing and communicative skills.
depends on for you or for me… i am enjoying my dissussions with everyone on here.[/QUOTE]
again, you are failing to think before you post. Must you continue on this path of flaunting your ignorance?
I’m only pointing these things out to you so that you may come to some understanding of how these things work in reality. there are plenty of people here who put in real time doing these things. You clearly don’t have much, if any idea of what real martial arts practice is and you should likely end your commentaries where you posture that you do.
while your exercise format may be of some benefit to you, as a person who doesn’t actively train in contact reality in regards to martial arts, you might want to refrain from handing out advice to people who come here looking for it.
You are merely being defensive and belligerent with your follow up quote posts to cover your own silly assumptions. you need to know this. There’s promise, but don’t let the fundamental reality escape you or you will be lost, and quickly.
try not to slap away the hand that pulls you back from the precipice friend. It’s not advisable.
regards.
once i lived with two jujistu friends, we combined push hands with grappling so that we began standing and allowed our pushing to turn into takedowns and grappling…
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Congratulations, you have invented Tai Chi. 
[QUOTE=David Jamieson;886430]again, you are failing to think before you post. Must you continue on this path of flaunting your ignorance?[/quote]i am enjoying myself extremely.
I’m only pointing these things out to you so that you may come to some understanding of how these things work in reality.
in reality skin tears and bones break.
there are plenty of people here who put in real time doing these things.
and clearly there are many who do not.
You clearly don’t have much, if any idea of what real martial arts practice is and you should likely end your commentaries where you posture that you do.
i’ll say and end what ever commentaries i so wish.
while your exercise format may be of some benefit to you, as a person who doesn’t actively train in contact reality in regards to martial arts, you might want to refrain from handing out advice to people who come here looking for it.
again i’ll train and practice however so chose to, besides my training is only to benefit myself not you or anyone else… so i’ll hand out my advice based on my understanding of the martial arts, and likewise you can do the same.
You are merely being defensive and belligerent with your follow up quote posts to cover your own silly assumptions.
you really need to have you ESP checked out because you are way off the mark most of the times… a multi-thousand pots doesn’t mean jack squat to me or the level of advice it seems convey.
you need to know this. There’s promise, but don’t let the fundamental reality escape you or you will be lost, and quickly.
the fundamentual reality is that people bleed and are maimed just the same.
try not to slap away the hand that pulls you back from the precipice friend.
i won 't [b]try[/b] and slap it, but i will use the advantage of the root and pull myself back to stability by grabbing the hand.
It’s not advisable.
haven’t you figured it out that i will… tend to differ.
regards.
thank you.
I can’t believe these, “I’ll simply do X and my inability to grapple will cease to be a weakness!” idiots still exist.
[QUOTE=uki;886446]i am enjoying myself extremely.
in reality skin tears and bones break.
and clearly there are many who do not.
i’ll say and end what ever commentaries i so wish.
again i’ll train and practice however so chose to, besides my training is only to benefit myself not you or anyone else… so i’ll hand out my advice based on my understanding of the martial arts, and likewise you can do the same.
you really need to have you ESP checked out because you are way off the mark most of the times… a multi-thousand pots doesn’t mean jack squat to me or the level of advice it seems convey.
the fundamentual reality is that people bleed and are maimed just the same.
i won 't [b]try[/b] and slap it, but i will use the advantage of the root and pull myself back to stability by grabbing the hand.
haven’t you figured it out that i will… tend to differ.
thank you.[/QUOTE]
clearly, you have nothing to learn.
best of luck to you in your training.
[QUOTE=David Jamieson;886475]clearly, you have nothing to learn.[/quote]when everything is remembered, learning ceases to exist.
best of luck to you in your training.
may i return the same to you.
[QUOTE=David Jamieson;886475]clearly, you have nothing to learn.
best of luck to you in your training.[/QUOTE]you know obviously i already responded to your response… but after a bit i noticed my signature and a clarity hit me so as to understand why i respond the way i do and you perhaps may appreciate it… an entire forest is made up of a variety of trees, yet some are more common than others… some grow straight, some grow crooked, some bear fruit, others nuts, yet the underlying lesson is that a pine tree will never bear an apple and an apple tree will never produce walnuts. hope this clears things up… until the next muddy splash.
Uki, I like you and your attitude. Seems like you have created a nice paradise with your spacious grounds and your beautiful children, so God bless you and them.
With that said, you made a mistake posting your little juggling sun pic. You are not a fighter. Even for a man of your slight build, a fighter’s body reveals certain things.
Your shoulders and neck… you have not spent sufficient time grappling.
Your biceps, upper shoulders… you have not spent sufficient time striking weighted objects, be them bags or men.
My point?
You have some wisdom. You know enough that there are no absolutes, so there is always room for a counter argument, technique. But when you say things like you lived with two BJJ players so you’ve learned biting works as an effective counter is simply, well, retarded.
Why were these two numbskulls? Did you sink your teeth into them? How did they react? Did they let go, and that was that? Or did they let go cursing and give you a rapping with their elbow like you wouldn’t believe?
Stick to discussing the Tao. There you can go in circles all day and fill up thousands of pages. But fighting… I’m sorry. You can fortune cookie it all day long but you simple haven’t said anything, ever, that has gained you an ounce of credibility.
If anyone bit me it would just set my rage off to another level. And I’d ****ing making them eat their teeth.
[QUOTE=Ray Pina;886537]With that said, you made a mistake posting your little juggling sun pic.[/quote]i was waiting for this.
You are not a fighter.
never said i was.
Even for a man of your slight build, a fighter’s body reveals certain things.
my attention is focused on eliminating the opponent before falling to the ground. truth of the matter is that i focus entirely on clawing, ripping, raking, smashing, tearing, and mutilating anothers body in the event that i may have need to defend myself, children, and friends, yet in all actuality it makes no sense for me to practice, nor waste time rolling around and practicing grappling moves that are simply incorporated within a certain sense of morals, ethics, and parameters set up by popular belief and political correctness.
Your shoulders and neck… you have not spent sufficient time grappling.
most likely because they are being used in other exercises that are not related to grappling.
Your biceps, upper shoulders… you have not spent sufficient time striking weighted objects, be them bags or men.
i am not a straight punch kinda guy, i prefer the tiger, hammer fist, and elbows… headbutts… i have the mason grip, i juggle iron bars, iron balls, and hand split 8-10 cords of wood every winter. my training is tailored around tearing someones flesh off, pulling tendons, ripping muscle, rending exposed skin, and smashing anything else in the way. obviously there is a certain limit within ones realm of training that must transcend actual confrontation… unless of course you live in a free-for-all-world.
My point?
you were looking for one specific flower and found an entirely new one?
You have some wisdom. You know enough that there are no absolutes, so there is always room for a counter argument, technique.
it is a freewill universe afterall.
But when you say things like you lived with two BJJ players so you’ve learned biting works as an effective counter is simply, well, retarded.
this response was simply to the assumption thast i never grappled… during these grappling sessions i saw many viable and sound opportunities to bite… of course one just makes a mental note and proceeds with the practice.
Why were these two numbskulls? Did you sink your teeth into them? How did they react? Did they let go, and that was that? Or did they let go cursing and give you a rapping with their elbow like you wouldn’t believe?
unfortunately you are missing the point, perhaps by the time you are reading this particular response, you already see the reason as to why i responded the way i did.
Stick to discussing the Tao. There you can go in circles all day and fill up thousands of pages.
circles are the most efficient of shapes…
But fighting… I’m sorry.
don’t be. it’s not your fault you don’t live in life in my shoes, nor see it in the way that is my own.
You can fortune cookie it all day long but you simple haven’t said anything, ever, that has gained you an ounce of credibility.
i am not looking for credentials.
If anyone bit me it would just set my rage off to another level. And I’d ****ing making them eat their teeth.
now imagine a stone mason who juggles 9 pound iron balls daily, and practices the concepts involving stripping the flesh off another individual… this particualr individual is a tiger by birth, technique, and lifestyle. the only way this individual would engage another for any reason would be too protect himself, his children, friends, and other loved ones… animals if need be; imagine now what one might be up against… you might be able to judge a book by it’s cover(gotta love all the sex pistols paraphrases recently), but you have to read it entirely to make the final description.
Through introspection I have observed…
MY ideas are always the Best…
My Opinions are always Right…
and…
MY Way of doing things is the ONLY Way to do things…
Unfortunately, everybody else is too foolish to recognize how smart and wonderful I AM…
If only everyone would see how wise I am.
The world would be much happier as a carbon copy of ME!
Poor world! 
Their loss!
It is easy to recognize the narcissism of others; it is much more difficult to recognize our own! 
For those of you who NOW recognize my superior wisdom…
…I am prepared to bless you!!
[QUOTE=Ray Pina;886537]If anyone bit me it would just set my rage off to another level. And I’d ****ing making them eat their teeth.[/QUOTE]
Hi Ray,
Just wondering… have you learned how to escape from a bite yet?
[QUOTE=uki;886551]truth of the matter is that i focus entirely on clawing, ripping, raking, smashing, tearing, and mutilating anothers body in the event that i may have need to defend myself, children, and friends, yet in all actuality it makes no sense for me to practice, nor waste time rolling around and practicing grappling moves that are simply incorporated within a certain sense of morals, ethics, and parameters set up by popular belief and political correctness..[/QUOTE]
In other words, you have no idea how to fight and hide behind your fantasies spewing nonsense.
[QUOTE=unkokusai;886607]In other words, you have no idea how to fight and hide behind your fantasies spewing nonsense.[/QUOTE]of course… but just pose a threat to my children and my way of life and i will scatter your carcass like a lawnmower.
[QUOTE=uki;886608]of course… but just pose a threat to my children and my way of life and i will scatter your carcass like a lawnmower.:D[/QUOTE]
Oh yes, and I’m sure you turn all green and the rest… :rolleyes:
If you want to play ‘badass,’ then go get some actual skills and stop hiding behind your theory-boy bullshit.