While sparring or rolling, how do you protect yourself from contracting something from another student/gym mate? It’s quite easy to get cut or to cut someone while sparring or rolling, increasing chances of cross contamination. I understand it is not very likely, but the chance is still there.
Now a days, with increased numbers in HIV or Hepatitis, there is no way to know if someone is a carrier, even if you know them well.
Not too mention the different types of communicable skin diseases, such as herpes, or mrsa.
What steps do you take to protect yourself from contracting something during training? What steps does your gym/kwoon/dojo take to protect you as a student.
What about tournaments? MMA or other full contact events?
I post this thread, not because I have an answer, but because it is a legitimate question. One that I hope experienced martial artists, students and teachers alike may share in there ideas on how to protect oneself.
Once again, this is not suggestions for me, this is to ask what safeguards ppl take at their schools. Most schools spar, it’s not uncommon to get scuffed up every now and then.
I have over 175 students and 3 training areas so we have a ton of precautions that we must take compared to when I was much smaller. Some of those precations include
no outside shoes can be worn on the training areas.
we mop and bleach and or disinfect the floor every night.
everyone is blood tested if they are going to fight inside the octagon.
studetns must tape and or cover any and all open wounds
students that have any type of disease must inform staff proior to joining.
ringworm is always going to be the most contracted communual disease mrsa can be one of the worst. hep Hiv things like this can ony contract through blood so if they are cut tape, alchohol and careful watchng is the best steps to a clean and heathly kwon
Very interesting, I wonder if most places have their students blood tested. I think thats a practice more places should employ. E.D., how is it regulated at your school, what I mean is, is there particular lab students must go to, and I assume they bring the test results to you, prior to going in the octagon. Is it a one time deal, or do they have to regularly get tested?
no one rolls or spars without a clean bill of health.
#3 is the one that is not addressed properly by most clubs in my opinion.
For one thing, if you really want to reduce risk here, have the students get a blood test and show the results if they wish to full contact spar or roll.
No point in getting others infected with HIV, Hepatitis, or a host of other blood born pathogens that are easily transmitted in a scenario whereby two people are engaged in combat.
Consider this, if you want to fight on a card, that’s what you must do. the same rule should apply for training in my opinion.
If your students do not practice good personal hygiene, send them out to get some before they spar or roll. It’s the responsible thing to do.
If people complain about the cost of a blood test, tell them that it’s better than complaining about having aids. It’s a non starter argument in my opinion.
no more carpeted floors-rubber training mats are hygenic and washed daily with antibacterial,antimicrobial, bleach, etc
Wipe down all equipment after use with clorox wipes
DON’T SHARE EQUIPMENT (gloves, headgear,wraps, etc)
Keep hand sanitizer available at all times-did you notice-they now have these at stores, banks etc.
students do not wear training shoes,feiyues, etc into class, but keep them separate and change into them. Training shoes are not to be worn outside.
(I don’t care if Orlando Bloom wears them!):mad:
they now sell antibacterial rash guards.
(a sign of the times)
My experience, and it seems to be the experience of many wrestling coaches as well, is that the DIRTY BASTARDS are the ones who carry and get the plagues
I learned to have a very heavy hand with people who show up in unwashed, stinky clothing. IE “GO HOME”
Other than that, wash you mats with a bleach solution…
Since I went on a jihad against the stinky I have not had a single issue
[QUOTE=brothernumber9;1059078]I could care less if someone has HIV and accidentally gets thier blood on me.
Most if not everything else has been advised by people who know.[/QUOTE]
I’m well aware you can’t contract something from someone with HIV if they just got their blood on you. However, when sparring full contact it’s quite possible for an opponent’s blood to make contact with an open wound of yours.
[QUOTE=Yung Apprentice;1059085]I’m well aware you can’t contract something from someone with HIV if they just got their blood on you. However, when sparring full contact it’s quite possible for an opponent’s blood to make contact with an open wound of yours.[/QUOTE]
There is virtually NOTHING indicating that two bleeding athletes can infect eachother…
People tend to BLEED OUT, not “in”
In addition to something like 50 years of gloden gloves boxing with no blood tests and plenty of blood, you have to look at one of Tommy Morrison’s last boxing fights, where he had probably already converted, it was so bloody the ref’s shirt was RED at the end (it started out white) and NO ONE associated with that match ever tested positive other than Tommy
[QUOTE=Yung Apprentice;1059085]I’m well aware you can’t contract something from someone with HIV if they just got their blood on you. However, when sparring full contact it’s quite possible for an opponent’s blood to make contact with an open wound of yours.[/QUOTE]
Indeed, or through the eye, the mouth, the nose or an abrasion.
[QUOTE=lkfmdc;1059088]There is virtually NOTHING indicating that two bleeding athletes can infect eachother…
People tend to BLEED OUT, not “in”
In addition to something like 50 years of gloden gloves boxing with no blood tests and plenty of blood, you have to look at one of Tommy Morrison’s last boxing fights, where he had probably already converted, it was so bloody the ref’s shirt was RED at the end (it started out white) and NO ONE associated with that match ever tested positive other than Tommy[/QUOTE]
dude…
If that’s the case then why is it that any fighter in the pro or sanctioned amateur scene must have a clean bill of health or they simply are not allowed to compete?
I wouldn’t say “Nothing” there is mounds of research that talks about blood born pathogens and risk according to activity and believe me, fighting IS a high risk activity.
[QUOTE=lkfmdc;1059093]Jamieson you have a horrible record when it comes to “facts” and “research”.
For the rest of you, there is not ONE case that they can say was in fact a combat sport case of HIV tranmission. NOT ONE
There are probably some HEP results, I would be more worried about HEP, but again, it is statisticaly LOW RISK
We have to BOTH be bleeding and your blood has to be go IN my wounds.
Again, the very nature of blood is that it bleeds OUT[/QUOTE]
I’ve had my opponent’s sweat drip into my mouth before while grappling (but teaches you to keep your mouth shut when breathing). Blood could just as easily do the same, or even drip into your eye.
People with contagious blood born and skin diseases should not particpate in contact sports. Period. I don’t want to train with them, and I surely wouldn’t want one of my students catching something for life because I failed to ask the right questions.