Choy Lee Fut VS Pak Mei

Hi everyone,

I was wondering if someone could help me to find a true and traditional Kung Fu school in NY? I have visited a bunch of them and i have seen so many flashy and crowed schools, where students were not corrected or handled properly. I have now narrowed down my choices to Choy Lee Fut school in Brooklyn or the Pak Mei school in NYC (Master Kwong Man Fong)

Do you have any advices or feedback from one or the other styles/ schools?

Thank you so much

Given where you are, CLF would be my call if I had to select between those two.

Hi Golden Arms,

Thanks for your response. I used to practice Kung Fu Wutao created by HOANG Nam in 1962 and i am looking for a similar style. Do you think CLF is the best option then? Have you ever had any feedback about the Pak Mei school in NY?
Please let me know,

Thank you

visit both schools and experience it first. neither style is “better”

He’ll probably do both given enough time.

lol i thought this was going to be a fight video thread :slight_smile:

both are great styles to train in, go visit both schools and see what fits best with you thats all any of us can do training is a personal thing

What CLF school you talking about? I don’t recall where this guy’s at, but I’d bet he’s a very good teacher:

http://choyleefut-hungsing.blogspot.com/

LOL he sped up his video to make him look faster… touch of hollywood there

[QUOTE=EarthDragon;1136236]LOL he sped up his video to make him look faster… touch of hollywood there[/QUOTE]

:confused: where did he speed it up?

I was just gonna ask the same thing ??
The form is NOT sped up, you can tell by his body AND the audience.
The mitt and bagwork is not sped up either.

where did he speed it up?

haha I was thinking the same thing. then realize maybe he never saw anything that fast before haha

You can always tell when videos are sped up by looking at the background people and objects. That is not the case here.

Clf

Good CLF is amongst the best TCMA there is.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nm_DuRzmgGc

… based on that form?

[QUOTE=Ray Pina;1136354]… based on that form?[/QUOTE]

Its a beautiful form that shows the heart of good CLF.

Its a beautiful form that shows the heart of good CLF.

you can’t speak to a wall. Forms just go right over his head.

While it is a nice form, I’m sure that Ray means that it can’t be viewed in isolation from this stuff http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xnxkvhjlnc and deemed to be the best there is.

If the issue is ‘fighting’ whatever that means, then as has been said here a gazillion times before: people, not styles, fight. That said, and I’m not a CLF practitioner, CLF is IMHO one of the best styles in all of TCMA. What an individual does with what it has to offer, is down to them… the ‘style’ doesn’t ‘fight’. I can see a huge amount of stuff in it, massive potential. If someone can’t see that (what it has to offer) then that’s every bit as personally valid as me seeing what is really good (in the style). It’s all down to people, styles aren’t mass-production lines, even some instructors try to make them that way. Re the individual practitioners in the forms shown earlier, there’s plenty to see that suggests great skill, motion and structure. What they do with that is, down to them, but it is there.

[QUOTE=XinKuzi;1136190]What CLF school you talking about? I don’t recall where this guy’s at, but I’d bet he’s a very good teacher:

http://choyleefut-hungsing.blogspot.com/[/QUOTE]

it could be undercranked(sped up) slightly, pretty much any fightscene/action scene in a movie is sped up, you wouldnt know the difference if its done right…not saying it is or it isnt. just saying if it was done right you wouldnt know.

The direction the topic has taken is one of people saying one style is better than another. It raises my curiosity because it’s already been determined that none of these styles are producing competitive level fighters… so now we’re basing a styles effectiveness on form? Just want to be clear on what data is being weighed to make the assessment.

Personally, if I’m going strictly on form I prefer Hsing-I and Taiji for mechanics. Ba Gua for position/strategy. The forms are more simple but stick to important fundamentals.

But again, personally, my opinion, forms are a way to string out students and dangle a carrot over their head to keep them paying and fill class time when a teacher hasn’t learned how to train a fighter. And the process gets handed down and repeated to new students.