Here is footage of some PRC Special Forces Knife training. It’s hard to find anything on chinese offensive knife work so I thought some may want to discuss this. The techniques on the vid are all reverse grip/pikal and done in gross motor long range motions from a weak hand guard position with the blade held back to help power the blow.
ehhh…I have seen and experianced far worse than this but I’ve got some problems with what is shown in terms of some of the executed movements and one step mentality of it.
I have this VCD format with no translations, and man he has an accent
Some good stuff but also an example of how CMA never escapes some of its baggage. They had to arrange teh techniques into a “form” and teach the form, then teh applications, instead of going straight to the knife work
The guy shows his knife and then makes a big downward strike. He looks like the perfect guy to use that old karate upward block vs knife defense against.
[QUOTE=Black Jack II;749416]Here is footage of some PRC Special Forces Knife training. It’s hard to find anything on chinese offensive knife work so I thought some may want to discuss this. The techniques on the vid are all reverse grip/pikal and done in gross motor long range motions from a weak hand guard position with the blade held back to help power the blow.
ehhh…I have seen and experianced far worse than this but I’ve got some problems with what is shown in terms of some of the executed movements and one step mentality of it.
good lord…using a long fist, large frame format??? wait…someone with better experience in BSL or plain old NLF tell me that’s not an empty hand form with a knife???
An ice pick grip stab into the “well of the neck” will kill you, so it isn’t such a bad technique, the horizontal stab into the are below teh floating ribs is also pretty deadly… what makes it horrible is how stiff he is, from doing it like a form!
An ice pick grip stab into the “well of the neck” will kill you, so it isn’t such a bad technique, the horizontal stab into the are below teh floating ribs is also pretty deadly… what makes it horrible is how stiff he is, from doing it like a form!
Extactly, the vital zone choices are fine, its the stiff application of these principles that sucks.
i didn’t watch all of it but at one point the translation says he’s saying that ‘obviously he wasn’t in a horse stance’ and that the movements must be done more ‘agilely’
[shrug] at least there is some attempt to recognize the translation of form into reality. but, I think, as you say lkfmdc, there is still baggage to shed.
well of the neck usually targets the subclavian artery…somewhere/someone said that that will ‘empty’ the brain case in just seconds. ???
and, really, any ‘form’ that is stiff is just wrong. beginners might be stiff with unfamiliarity but as you get to know the form, and hopefully how it could be used in ‘reality’ then you lose the stiffness and have a more natural movement that may not be ‘textbook’ but, well, I can tell if a guy doing a form has ever even thought about applying the dance to fighting or not.
