Originally posted by IronFist
So let’s talk about the bottom ring now. Should I hold out until I find a bag that has that bottom ring to tie it to a weight on the floor? Or doesn’t it make that much difference?
Hold out for the ring if you can. Stopping to reset your bag’s sway every 30 seconds suxors.
On the other hand, I like to swing the bag sometimes and kick/punch it as it comes at me, kind of simulating some guy bumrushing.
I haven’t read this thread yet, so this may have already been said:
canvas - good bag, but wear gloves, especially if you’re not used to hitting it - a canvas bag will tear the skin off your hands quick, especially with a hook punch.
nylon - watch the seams. I’ve seen somone gash their leg pretty bad from kicking the seam of the bag.
you should be at least wrapping your hands regardless of which type you use (even though, I don’t always follow my own advice)
Originally posted by MasterKiller
Hold out for the ring if you can. Stopping to reset your bag’s sway every 30 seconds suxors.
don’t stop.
use a light push kick to slow the bag as it comes in, or you can clinch with it, throw a few strikes then back out.
Seven Star,
Do you have time to wrap you hands in a ral fight? Can you tell your attacker to hold up a minute so you can go to your car and get your wraps?
in all fairness rd you are correct in your assertions,
however, sometimes people just train martial arts for the sport,
and concentrate on fighting in the ring.
conditioning is a plus,
ime from hitting canvas barefisted it does tear away at the skin but after a while the skin gets harder.
i personally see nothing wrong with wrapping the knuckles either , you can still condition your hands but at a safer pace.
On the rare occasiosn I do bag work, I do it to test how hard I can hit, as well as hitting in combos wiht speed and power derived from good form.
When my hands begin to get sore, I stop and do some jow. Or switch to kicks. I don’t think I have ever just pounded away with punches for 20 minutes in my whole life. 20 minutes for me was allways a healthy mix of kicks, punches, chops, slices, open palms, elbows, shoulder strikes and various combos out of my forms.
Also, I vary intensity through out the workout, from ligth to heavy. I never thunder through the whole time.
Originally posted by Royal Dragon
Seven Star,
Do you have time to wrap you hands in a ral fight? Can you tell your attacker to hold up a minute so you can go to your car and get your wraps?
doesn’t matter. I’m not gonna tear my knuckles on somebody’s cheek. the canvas is alot tougher than their skin. Also, I’m not gonna be hitting a person for the same duration that I am hitting the bag.
Originally posted by Royal Dragon
On the rare occasiosn I do bag work, I do it to test how hard I can hit, as well as hitting in combos wiht speed and power derived from good form.
that’s what sparring and fighting are for.
When my hands begin to get sore, I stop and do some jow. Or switch to kicks. I don’t think I have ever just pounded away with punches for 20 minutes in my whole life. 20 minutes for me was allways a healthy mix of kicks, punches, chops, slices, open palms, elbows, shoulder strikes and various combos out of my forms.
depends on the day. If I am working hands, then the whole period is hands. If I am working combos, then the whole thing is mixed.
Originally posted by MasterKiller
I like canvas, but you have to wear gloves or it eats your hands up. The drawback is if you ever hang it outside or store it someplace wet, it will rot and fall apart.
I agree, but think a combo of both is good for the following reason
a nylon bag allows you to go at it hard core and get more pushy power outta your form… a canvas bag ( especially when it contains sand at max desity ) is great for practicing your impact but will no doubt " chew up your hands"… highly recommending some gloves or strapping unless masochistic …
can find lighter cavnvas bags to serve same purpose as a heavier nylon, but considering opposing weight factor, I’d go 1 x heavy nylon, + 1 ) or more ) x heavy canvas…
open to another analysis though…
anyone else???..
why do you insist on filling the bag with sand? At max capacity, that bag, depending on the size, will be extremely dense with very little give. It will be a big paperweight.
I don’t , but native instructors do… I undrstand your point, but sand is good for practicing fajing ( impact or explosive power)…here it’s just kinda standard…
right…It’ll cane your hands, which is why we all love strapping and nylon alternatives 
… you use what you got, and here, … that’s what I got…
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I prefer Canvas Bags. My brother and I made two, one is filled with old textbooks and denim and it is too soft. The other is filled with old textbooks, and rocks with just enough padding to stop you from breaking your hand, that is a fun punching bag.
Hardens up the knuckles something fierce.
Originally posted by SevenStar
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you wanna share something???
it means “To The Top”
He posted it to bump this thread up on the forum so more people can see it and comment.
BTW, Seven, did you ever get that monster bag together?
I never tried - I was against the monster bag - It was RD’s project. He’s got it I think, but it’s not hanging anywhere.
sweet… if you’re training earnest you just are ha… and if you’re moving your bod at all, all props regarless…
cheers the 2 o’ yas…
salute’… 