[QUOTE=Liokault;1145037]Dude, step away from the heavy bag, get a floor to ceiling ball and/or a guy who knows what he’s doing with a set of pads.[/QUOTE]
so i followed this bit of advice… i have had mine now for about 5 days… pointers??
pointers??
Hit it like a man and stop with the f@ggy wrist slaps.
Uki,
One thing you have going is good eye hand coordination and “connection” with the bag. In Pai Lum our serpent techniques are similiar to the stance you are keeping, in that the feet are stationary and the upper torso and body move from side to side to counter and evade than attack.
It seems to me this is what you are going for, however, one problem with this is most opponents are not going to stay stationary, at least if they are any good, so incorporating good foot work and movement into your bag training is essential because the serpent style of evasion can work but not at all times, particulary on an opponent who moves and uses angles well.
In other words, move more often, move your body, move your head, just move man!
It also would benefit you to add more power strikes to this. Yes, the double end bag is for developing speed and timing, but power will come through this as well when your technique improves. Hope that helps.
Here is a clip of me doing double end bag work, the head movement, parrying, footwork, and overall movement are what I think would help you the most:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57rVCztYiAo&feature=bf_next&list=UUwVQdvTSCvWTxzPNdacy4aw&lf=plcp
yo that vid was crooked man. 
[QUOTE=uki;1156863]yo that vid was crooked man. :p[/QUOTE]
What can I say, I’m a crooked mofo!!
what’s the difference between wearing gloves and not, while practicing on this bag?
Not bad for new to the ceiling to floor bag.
Watch your straight left… it’s dropping on the follow through. Someone will rush in on that.
Great coordination.
Try a good lead straight followed by a cross, pivot step. Lead hook… good combo.
[QUOTE=uki;1156865]what’s the difference between wearing gloves and not, while practicing on this bag?[/QUOTE]
Besides the obvious inability to do open hand strikes, if you train with boxing gloves it will make you better with boxing gloves, for your speed and timing mostly. Doing it bare hand is not bad, and you should actually do both from time to time, I know I do, it mostly depends on your goals and what you are trying to improve upon.
One other thing Uki, it is a good idea to tuck your chin, and in most of your work I see you with the head up and chin exposed. Give a slight tuck to the chin to protect the button, and it also protects the throat area from all the knifehands and adam’s apple ripping tiger claws from the Kung Fu killas!!!
[QUOTE=Iron_Eagle_76;1156862]
Here is a clip of me doing double end bag work, the head movement, parrying, footwork, and overall movement are what I think would help you the most:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57rVCztYiAo&feature=bf_next&list=UUwVQdvTSCvWTxzPNdacy4aw&lf=plcp[/QUOTE]
Nice movement! Nice fluid, powerful punching.
… the boxing gloves also add weight. Adds a level of shoulder conditioning into the mix. Improves accuracy slightly too.
[QUOTE=MasterKiller;1156860]Hit it like a man and stop with the f@ggy wrist slaps.[/QUOTE]remind me to bitchslap you we ever meet. 
Never been a fan of the DBL end bag, nor the speed bag for that matter, but had to do it when I was boxing.
In one word: MOVE
The DBL end bag teaches you hand/eye coordination BUT you have to move around it and evade and such.
You are not fighting it nor are you actually moving and hitting the same way as you would in a fight BUt you are developing some good coordination and timing and footwork.
It also breaks the monotony of heavy bag work.
uki - ray had some good advice.
[QUOTE=Ray Pina;1156877]… the boxing gloves also add weight. Adds a level of shoulder conditioning into the mix. Improves accuracy slightly too.[/QUOTE]
I probably wouldn’t go as high as 16oz; and definitely no larger than 16oz though.
The larger the glove size the more sloppy the work.
I’m not a fan of large gloves on the focus mitts either.
Iron_Eagle_76’s video was pretty good; my only advice to him would be to work on keeping up the hand of the side he’s ducking to (in case of a feint followed by a hook or kicks).
Sanjuro_ronin - I hate speed bag, but love the double end (unless it’s hung too tightly). I find double end bag & shadow boxing to be the 2 most effective solo training drills to help with sparring - they have the most carry over for me.
[QUOTE=Pork Chop;1156906]uki - ray had some good advice.
I probably wouldn’t go as high as 16oz; and definitely no larger than 16oz though.
The larger the glove size the more sloppy the work.
I’m not a fan of large gloves on the focus mitts either.
Iron_Eagle_76’s video was pretty good; my only advice to him would be to work on keeping up the hand of the side he’s ducking to (in case of a feint followed by a hook or kicks).
Sanjuro_ronin - I hate speed bag, but love the double end (unless it’s hung too tightly). I find double end bag & shadow boxing to be the 2 most effective solo training drills to help with sparring - they have the most carry over for me.[/QUOTE]
Go advice there.
Yeah, to me it’s just a personal thing, I don’t like to be hold back that much.
[QUOTE=sanjuro_ronin;1156909]Go advice there.
Yeah, to me it’s just a personal thing, I don’t like to be hold back that much.[/QUOTE]
oh, that’s easy - get a peanut style double end bag and hang it slightly loose.
that way you can blast it and give it a lot of swing.
needs to be tight enough that you can still do combos, but loose enough to have some swing.
the double end bags i’ve seen in roy jones jr & manny pacquiao clips have been hung WAY too tight.
[QUOTE=Pork Chop;1156913]oh, that’s easy - get a peanut style double end bag and hang it slightly loose.
that way you can blast it and give it a lot of swing.
needs to be tight enough that you can still do combos, but loose enough to have some swing.
the double end bags i’ve seen in roy jones jr & manny pacquiao clips have been hung WAY too tight.[/QUOTE]
Hmmm, maybe that was it, they could have been too tight.
The peanut is the double dblend bag right?
How do you know when it’s too tight?
[QUOTE=sanjuro_ronin;1156918]Hmmm, maybe that was it, they could have been too tight.
The peanut is the double dblend bag right?
How do you know when it’s too tight?[/QUOTE]
http://store.titleboxing.com/2indoubendba.html
The nice thing about the peanut bag is that it’s a bit more substantial when you hit it.
Some of this is personal preference, but when I’m looking at it, I judge how far the bag swings out after I punch it before it swings back at me, and the speed of the swing.
If you land a nice cross, it should swing out a bit before coming back.
You should still be able to string combos together, so not too much slack.
A lot of double end bags are hung so tightly that they “stick” to your punches - don’t swing out at all before they’re coming back.
The size of the glove can affect the “sticking” problem too; larger gloves can “stick” more.
Needs to have enough balance between swing & return that you can fire off a combo at a good rhythm and still hit the bag.
In the old days, heavy bags were lighter and they swung more.
Watch some of the old Sugar Ray Robinson training highlights.
The swinging helped fighters judge distances & hit moving targets better.
They could also use the swing of the bag for defense.
Everybody’s on this super heavy heavybag kick these days because they think it’ll make 'em hit like Marciano (who supposedly had a 300lb heavybag).
Peanut double end bag is kind of like a throw back to this idea.
use that thing for dodge stepping as well.
[QUOTE=David Jamieson;1156934]use that thing for dodge stepping as well.[/QUOTE]
i use it for all kinds of defense.
the nice thing about hanging it with a bit of swing is that it opens up more opportunities for side stepping & creating angles.
[QUOTE=Pork Chop;1156927]http://store.titleboxing.com/2indoubendba.html
The nice thing about the peanut bag is that it’s a bit more substantial when you hit it.
Some of this is personal preference, but when I’m looking at it, I judge how far the bag swings out after I punch it before it swings back at me, and the speed of the swing.
If you land a nice cross, it should swing out a bit before coming back.
You should still be able to string combos together, so not too much slack.
A lot of double end bags are hung so tightly that they “stick” to your punches - don’t swing out at all before they’re coming back.
The size of the glove can affect the “sticking” problem too; larger gloves can “stick” more.
Needs to have enough balance between swing & return that you can fire off a combo at a good rhythm and still hit the bag.
In the old days, heavy bags were lighter and they swung more.
Watch some of the old Sugar Ray Robinson training highlights.
The swinging helped fighters judge distances & hit moving targets better.
They could also use the swing of the bag for defense.
Everybody’s on this super heavy heavybag kick these days because they think it’ll make 'em hit like Marciano (who supposedly had a 300lb heavybag).
Peanut double end bag is kind of like a throw back to this idea.[/QUOTE]
Marcianos was a 200lbs sandbag and he only used that one fro hooks and body shots.
Rule of thumb is a 100lbs for those under 200lbs and the heavier ones for those over 200lbs.
I may look into this.
Thanks bro.