Alright. I lied. I’ll answer. 
My other major point is this: I have asked to play with all types of martial artists in the past … none of them told me to go join a league specific to their style first. They just said, “come on.”
Were these guys highly ranked professional fighters that you had no previous interactions with? If so, what were their names? They’d be easy to track down being highly ranked pro’s… More likely they were just average folks that did “style x” or “sport x” if your story is true at all. Either that or you already knew them.
Not only that, but how do they know you aren’t some a-hole that will sue them after they mess you up? Or if you want to go to an alternate location, how do they know you aren’t some psycho that will show up armed? Fighting in sanctioned bouts avoids the possibility of being sued, going to jail, getting stabbed or shot. Not only that, but there is an official record of the fight and what happenned. Anybody can say they are 50-0 in street fights and unofficial MMA matches. It means absolutely nothing. Why would they risk their professional fighting career in a fight where they could get injured (end their career), they could go to jail (seriously impact their career), they could get sued (impact their career), or they could get killed by a psycho… At best they win a fight against a no-name amateur that they should beat anyway. At worst, they lose the fight tarnishing their reputation and possibly carreer?
I can’t understand how you are so unable to comprehend any of this. Anybody with a brain, including me, would only fight in official, sanctioned matches. We’ve all gone to different clubs and fought exhibitions, but that’s entirely different than meeting up with a stranger to fight an anything goes match. Please.
The only thing that does bother me are the personal attacks … about specific people calling me a troll
Actually I take back the troll comment. You are obviously not a troll. You are just pretty ignorant.
As seen below:
By what standarrd do you call these guys champs? College wrestler champ? … a dime a dozen.
lol! Ignorance at its finest. Josh Koshek placed 1st in the NCAA Division 1 NATIONAL TOURNAMENT. Meaning that all the best collegiate wrestlers from all over the entire nation compete there to become [u] National Champion [/u]. There is only 1 national champion per weight class per year. Dime a dozen? OK… Perhaps that was a fluke, right? Well, in 2 other years he finished 2nd and 3rd. That’s 3 top 3 finishes in a 4-year NCAA Div 1 Wrestling career. The guy is a world class wrestler. Speaking of which, did you see how many of his takedowns were stuffed by Leben? You think you could stuff a national champion, world-class wrestler?
You also said that nobody looked good on the ground. Well Kenny Florian is a Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu Blackbelt. You can see his lineage here: http://www.bjj.org/lineage.html He’s won numerous grappling tournaments and grappling superfights. He’s placed in the top 3 in his division in international grappling tournaments. He gives seminars and sells instructional videos to seasoned grappling and MMA veterans about grappling. He is a world class submission grappler. No skill though… Right?
Others on the show have high school state and regional wrestling championships under their belt as well as years of training MMA and grappling.
Out of all the training, you picked out the one dude who doesn’t have much ground experience to use an example. You said he looked bad on the ground. Well, bravo. You are very observant considering his teammates, the other team, and even HE said that his weakness was the ground. The guy still has KO’s in sanctioned MMA fights though. How many of those do you have?
So now please tell me how you can justify your comments about proven fighters when you haven’t done anything in the ring? That’s what I’m saying.
All I’m asking now is, IF someone wants to make those statements about me, please come and see for yourself. Otherwise, who’s trolling?
LMFAO! “If anybody wants to call me on my ignorant statements, then take time off of your job and off your life to come to New York and see for yourself in an illegal fight inwhich you could be found liable for damages to my person, possibly shot by psycho me, possibly waste your time if I was a no-show, and even have some nice fun time in Riker’s Island Prison.”
Whew. Pretty tempting. I’ll pass. I just don’t understand why somebody would talk so much crap when they lost their only sanctioned bout and readily admit that they aren’t “ready” to fight sanctioned MMA matches. You don’t even know when you’ll be ready. Maybe a 1.5 years… maybe not… Doesn’t make sense to me.
Maybe if you can explain why you’d do that under those circumstances, then I could lay off.
