Do you know how the Sup Baat Lohon Kuen qigong routine got implemented in the Chan Family Choy Lay Fut regimen? Meaning, where did it start? Was it something developed by a Chan Family practitioner? Or was it something someone else outside the family created and brought to the Chan Family?
Just curious. It’s a really nice routine.
Thanks,
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wow…too good to answer a question huh joseph? i saw you online…figures.
[QUOTE=hskwarrior;1000719]wow…too good to answer a question huh joseph? i saw you online…figures.[/QUOTE]
he was probably too busy on the Baduanjin thread not answering my question…
[QUOTE=yutyeesam;1000504]Do you know how the Sup Baat Lohon Kuen qigong routine got implemented in the Chan Family Choy Lay Fut regimen? Meaning, where did it start? Was it something developed by a Chan Family practitioner? Or was it something someone else outside the family created and brought to the Chan Family?
Just curious. It’s a really nice routine.
Thanks,
123[/QUOTE]
XJ sure can tell better, but 18 hands is part of Shaolin Luohan Qigong system. Choy Fook pass the system to Chan Heung Gung. It’s a Saholin system, but in my opinion has some taoist influence too.
It is been said that 18 hands is the same that Yi jin jing, but I think is more kind of based on it with a more martial focus. Sup Baat luohan is aimed for jing,it’s a long form and after years of doing I can always find new things. If you can learn it do it.
18 hands is part of Shaolin Luohan Qigong system
does Shaolin practice the same stuff as CLF? or is this exclusive to Chan Heung’s lineage only?
Don’t understand well your question, but Luohan qigong is part of CLF as Lion dance and chinese medicine does.
forgive me then. Does the Shaolin schools TEACH and PRACTICE the exact same Qigong forms taught to Chan Heung?
my original question was intended to ask "The Louhan forms taught to chan heung by Choy Fook, does anyone outside of CLF practice and teach the exact same forms? or were they only found in Chan Heung’s CLF?
That’s a good question, and pretty much what I was getting at. If it were outside the Chan Family, then perhaps the 18 Lohon Kuen qigong set could be cross referenced.
But if it isn’t, then it seems like it could be considered a Chan Family original, which I think would be pretty cool, actually.
Really, it doesn’t matter, because a good set is a good set. But if it was an adaptation/creation of the Chan Family, you could almost look at it as a Choy Lay Fut Qigong thing! (not that that matters either. labels labels labels! lol)
wow…unanswered questions…makes u wonder…lol
lol? what are you trying to prove?
nothing. nothing to prove. lol
[QUOTE=JAZA;1000898]lol? what are you trying to prove?[/QUOTE]
Don’t let him bother you. Frank is just being Frank.
Maybe JAZA doesn’t know…and maybe extrajoseph doesn’t want to start posting again.
For good reasons since we’re all know where this will lead us…again!
no…i saw joseph online, he read this thread but chose not to reply. that’s all. im having fun with him. he’s the only one who made this forum interesting for me really.
[QUOTE=hskwarrior;1000929]no…i saw joseph online, he read this thread but chose not to reply. that’s all. im having fun with him. he’s the only one who made this forum interesting for me really.[/QUOTE]
It is more interesting when we have conflict isn’t it?
It also brings people with involvement to participate as well.
yup. i agree with you on that
Hi Frank,
Don’t worry I am still watching you like a guardian angel. Are you interested in the history of Lohan 18 Hands according to Chan Yiu-Chi? Say so and I can tell you.
Meanwhile I am having some fun elsewhere on this forum.
http://ezine.kungfumagazine.com/forum/showthread.php?t=56712
XJ
with you as my guardian angel joseph…i’m in a LOT of trouble. hahahaha
Sure, Joseph im interested. but I’d be MORE interested in what Chan Heung recorded. I’ll take Chan Yiu Chi, but there’s no recordings from Chan Heung in this regard?
I don’t have any documents by Chan Heung, I only have some stuff written by Chan Yiu-Chi and he has a long chapter on the Lohan 18 Hands, most of the stuff disappeared in the Cultural Revolution, including Chan Heung’s weapons (eg. the 9 Dragon Trident) and THAT Tiger skin, but I heard with my own ears, they did exist.
That’s good. Does Chan Yiu Chi mention what we’re asking?