[QUOTE=Luk Hop;978252]I have never studied with Dr. Painter and I am in no way trying to denounce his skills or teaching abilities as I am sure that these are some of the reasons why many proficient practitioners seek to and continue to study with him. However, I lived in the DFW are for nearly 20 years (having studied 10 of those 20 years) and I can attest that there are other Bagua teachers and practitioners in the area who are skilled as well. I believe that “devine status” is somewhat of an overstatement.
I guess that it all boils down to whom you know or whom you do not know.[/QUOTE]
Not that it was meant to be like there are no other teachers.
Dr. Painter is well known by many.
My advice is to go see and participate in classes and see if you actually like the flavor of Baguazhang that is being taught by different people. find the one you like and learn it fully.
Mr. Ming Qian Bo is showing some nice Yao movement in that clip. You can especially see it in his back and hips when he shows the move in mid-air and not actually on his student. Lots of practice to get that. Good clip!
[QUOTE=Boston Bagua;978284]Not that it was meant to be like there are no other teachers.
Dr. Painter is well known by many.
My advice is to go see and participate in classes and see if you actually like the flavor of Baguazhang that is being taught by different people. find the one you like and learn it fully.[/QUOTE]
Mr. Dugas,
I believe that you are being somewhat presumptous. I did not know that the higher levels of Bagua included thought interpretation as well. I suppose that I will now need to double or even triple my efforts if I wish to obtain such a level of skill.
Thank you for the advice, but it has already been applied.
I did find what works for me, and I am in the process of learning it.
[QUOTE=Boston Bagua;978287]All 3 develop ways to use the entire body as a whole to create power, of course this is done through their styles flavor for lack of a better word.
[/QUOTE]well said - all are complimentary to one another.
[QUOTE=kfson;978293]When someone is very good, they don’t have to move, you see it in their presence.[/QUOTE]ain’t that the truth… presence is everything.
[QUOTE=goju;978487]argh! why cant anyone good come and teach in colorado!
:D[/QUOTE]
Where are you at? My old Kung Fu brother is in Colorado. Has close to 30 years experience (if not more) in external (mantis) and internal (taiji/bagua).
[QUOTE=woliveri;978491]Where are you at? My old Kung Fu brother is in Colorado. Has close to 30 years experience (if not more) in external (mantis) and internal (taiji/bagua).[/QUOTE]
in wheatridge:D
let me guess this guys on the othe side of colorado huh?
[QUOTE=goju;978487]argh! why cant anyone good come and teach in colorado!
:D[/QUOTE]
Good lord man.. Colorado is full of good people! Marcus Brinkman was there for quite a while and taught alot of folks., plus there are all the Tang Shou Tao types. PM me your email and I will pass it along to a gungfu brother of mine who is in the Boulder area. He can probably point you better towards whatever you’d like to find, he knows alot of Taiji, Shuai Chiao and (of course) Bagua people.
[QUOTE=dimethylsea;978563]Good lord man.. Colorado is full of good people! Marcus Brinkman was there for quite a while and taught alot of folks., plus there are all the Tang Shou Tao types. PM me your email and I will pass it along to a gungfu brother of mine who is in the Boulder area. He can probably point you better towards whatever you’d like to find, he knows alot of Taiji, Shuai Chiao and (of course) Bagua people.
Colorado is alot better than Tennessee for that.[/QUOTE]
I was looking in the Boulder area (my home town), it looked like the only Bagua school I could find had closed indefinately.
[QUOTE=kfson;978569]I was looking in the Boulder area (my home town), it looked like the only Bagua school I could find had closed indefinately.[/QUOTE]
Yeah those are the YiZong folks.. but Marcus Brinkman had quite a few good students who later trained with Eric Luo. The following is just speculation.. but I would bet money the two guys who spearheaded/led that school are still training themselves. You can always talk to those cats about meeting up for lessons in the park or someone’s backyard. IIRC those folks rented/borrowed matspace from the local Judo school (similar to my arrangement with a local JKD school). Chances are the economy tanked and they had to trim their personal budget. Which meant the expenditure of their MA rental space was probably on the chopping block first. A fellow has to feed his kids before spending money on gungfu.
If you really want the goods you don’t let something like “our group is closed indefinitely” dissuade you. Find out who ran the group and track them down. Assume it was overhead, not the desire to teach that shelved the public operation, until they tell you differently.
When I first started training Glenn was renting the upstairs of a ballet school. Then after some months he moved the “class” to the park. I never saw more than 3 students in a class the whole time I trained with him. Didn’t matter though. I wasn’t driving to him because of his building. I was driving to him because I had a peak experience watching bagua and I had worn out two copies of a book reading and rereading. He had what I had to have, and I wanted it.
Don’t take “on hiatus indefinitely” to mean “you can’t train with us”. The positive attitude is “hmm.. maybe the classes will be small, informal, and austere, out in the rough!”. Keep at it!
kfson,
I am the class leader of the school that dimethylsea spoke of. My teacher Owen Schilling has been leading a Xingyi group in Boulder on Saturday mornings in Boulder. Both he and myself are available for private lessons in Baguazhang. You can PM me if you would like information on how to contact us.
We ended up shutting the school down due to some scheduling conflicts & a dip in class attendance. The group that meets on Saturday is primarily comprised of our core group of students from the school. It is a good group of folks that practice hard.
