[QUOTE=uki;977939]yet only if the path was linear on a sphere and the person had enough spacial skills to guide them, otherwise this statement is only partially correct… if it were an another plane of existence that was not sphereical in nature, one would simply walk for eternity. [/QUOTE]
WE live on a sphere! LOL!!
Anything else is just immmmmmaaaaagggggiiiiiinnnnnaaaaaattttiiiioooonnnnnnn!!!
[QUOTE=Boston Bagua;977647]There is nothing to say about what it achieves.
Come visit me and I will SHOW you what it achieves.[/QUOTE]
I see you’re associated with the Gompa. Dr Painter has near devine status here in the DFW area. Did you train in Arlington? What path did you take to Bagua, the traditional through Xing Yi?
I met Dr. Painter at a seminar in the late 1990’s, and he handled me with ease.
I asked him to teach me what I did not know.
I have been with him ever since.
I have been certified to teach the first level of the Jiulong Baguazhang system, and I am working on becoming a shifu in the system.
I will also be learning the family Xing Yi Quan and Tai Ji Quan as well.
Baguazhang speaks to me on a level that the others do not.
I train in Arlington yearly as well as host Dr. Painter at workshops here in Boston and attend the annual Gathering of the Circle which is our week logn Jiulong Baguazhang camp.
Dale,
Just out of curiosity what did you train before you found Dr. Painter? Might give some folks an idea of what you brought to the table that Dr. Painter “handled with ease”.
[QUOTE=dimethylsea;978032]Might give some folks an idea of what you brought to the table that Dr. Painter “handled with ease”.[/QUOTE]dales ****ing huge… that’s what he means.
[QUOTE=uki;978047]dales ****ing huge… that’s what he means.[/QUOTE]
Not to me. Dale is about the same size I am.
I had been training for over 20 years in Uechi Ryu as well as having been exposed to Judo, Aikido, South Mantis, an another Baguazhang system before I met Dr. Painter.
I am 6’2" and 285-300 depending on what I am eating and training.
Dr. Painter handled my external training and laid me on the ground with ease.
Hence my immediate response to ask him to train me.
[QUOTE=Boston Bagua;978123]I had been training for over 20 years in Uechi Ryu as well as having been exposed to Judo, Aikido, South Mantis, an another Baguazhang system before I met Dr. Painter.
I am 6’2" and 285-300 depending on what I am eating and training.
Dr. Painter handled my external training and laid me on the ground with ease.
Hence my immediate response to ask him to train me.[/QUOTE]
Thanks for sharing.
Do you find any similarities between Bagua and Aikido?
[QUOTE=dimethylsea;978093]Not to me. Dale is about the same size I am.[/QUOTE]you just have more hair. 
Our system (Wang Zhuangfei)/lineage is very different from Dale’s system from what I can see on youtube but the importance of Circle walking remains on top of the training list (AFAIC). This practice develops the body in ways that other systems I’ve practiced (Northern Mantis, Tai Mantis, Taiji (Chen, Yang, Wu)) never came close to. You need to go have a taste, then perhaps you’ll know.
Dale, you still planning to move to Florida?
I will be moving to Florida when I am finished with my masters program in acupuncture and herbal medicine.
I will be done in 2011 or early 2012.
Circle walking also helps develop Iron Body if done slowly and in a particular manner. Hence many Baguazhang people are known for being able to absorb abnormal amounts of abuse.
I do not practice Iron Vest much anymore as intense Baguazhang training will develop it as well.
Cool, it will be good to see you down here.
In addition to what Dale just said (develop the iron body) our style develops what my teacher calls “Ba Zi”, and area of the forearm near the wrist. This area, over time, becomes like steel and can be used to break the bones or seriously injure your opponent.
Interested in circle walking yet??
This thread would be so different if it was titled, " Attention street walkers".
[QUOTE=kfson;978010]… Dr Painter has near devine status here in the DFW area…[/QUOTE]
I have never studied with Dr. Painter and I am in no way trying to denounce his skills or teaching abilities as I am sure that these are some of the reasons why many proficient practitioners seek to and continue to study with him. However, I lived in the DFW are for nearly 20 years (having studied 10 of those 20 years) and I can attest that there are other Bagua teachers and practitioners in the area who are skilled as well. I believe that “devine status” is somewhat of an overstatement.
I guess that it all boils down to whom you know or whom you do not know.
[QUOTE=woliveri;978242]In addition to what Dale just said (develop the iron body) our style develops what my teacher calls “Ba Zi”, and area of the forearm near the wrist. This area, over time, becomes like steel and can be used to break the bones or seriously injure your opponent.[/quote]you should take up iron ball juggling.
[QUOTE=sanjuro_ronin;978244]This thread would be so different if it was titled, " Attention street walkers".[/QUOTE]not everyone sees a 2 dollar whore like you. 
[QUOTE=Luk Hop;978252]I have never studied with Dr. Painter and I am in no way trying to denounce his skills or teaching abilities as I am sure that these are some of the reasons why many proficient practitioners seek to and continue to study with him. However, I lived in the DFW are for nearly 20 years (having studied 10 of those 20 years) and I can attest that there are other Bagua teachers and practitioners in the area who are skilled as well. I believe that “devine status” is somewhat of an overstatement.
I guess that it all boils down to whom you know or whom you do not know.[/QUOTE]
I have studied Xing I in the Plano area.
Can you recommend a few Bagua teachers. You can PM me if that is required.
[QUOTE=Boston Bagua;978238]I will be moving to Florida when I am finished with my masters program in acupuncture and herbal medicine.
I will be done in 2011 or early 2012.
Circle walking also helps develop Iron Body if done slowly and in a particular manner. Hence many Baguazhang people are known for being able to absorb abnormal amounts of abuse.
I do not practice Iron Vest much anymore as intense Baguazhang training will develop it as well.[/QUOTE]
Will Iron Body hinder the type of soft body movement required of Tai Chi?
[QUOTE=kfson;978266]Will Iron Body hinder the type of soft body movement required of Tai Chi?[/QUOTE]yes… you will never be able to move gracefully and if you stop practicing you will begin to rust away into nothing. :rolleyes:
[QUOTE=uki;978267]yes… you will never be able to move gracefully and if you stop practicing you will begin to rust away into nothing. :rolleyes:[/QUOTE]
I think I knew that before, but I must have forgotten. Thanks for reminding me!
[QUOTE=kfson;978266]Will Iron Body hinder the type of soft body movement required of Tai Chi?[/QUOTE]
Real Taiji is not soft nor is it hard, it is that middle path between the two.
You cannot pulse using Jing energy while being soft.
Iron Body does not affect any internal system but can only add to it.