Anyone here ever do dynamic tension forms?

I mean forms that were designed to be done entirely with maximal tension, for the purpose of building power, such as Stone Warrior, Snake Turns Over, Sanchin, etc. What were your experiences? For how long did you do the form? Did you benefit from it?

Oh yeah, people who have done regular forms* but with dynamic tension throughout the whole thing can comment as well.

IronFist

*“Regular forms” meaning forms that were NOT designed for the sole purpose of doing them with dynamic tension for power/strength/size development.

IF do you know what the chinese mean when they talk about tendonstretching and marrowwashing exercise?, I Dont know much about the theorys and i have my own ideas on these; I’m wondering if you know about the tendonstretching strentgh if you Would discuss and compare this with and oppossed to your average western wieghtlifter and bodybuilder..How do these training regimens compare what is worked and how so, etc In relation to extra strentgh building for combat training!.
:cool: uno?, Any Idea!.

Diego,

As well as the kind and informative replies no doubt to be offered here, if you ask that question on the Tibetan forum, you will get a clear answer.

Tao.

:cool:

If Anyone Here Can Build on this to, That Would be Great!.

Southern Tai Tzu

South Tai Tzu has a really ancient San Zhen in it. I do it a couple of times a week for about 30 minutes each time in 4 week cycles. It’s a great set, and so long as you get the breathing right it’s one heck of a challenge. It builds alot of mental drive if nothing else.

I have found it to be good if done AFTER weight lifting or heavy weapons training. I do it after basic staff drills with a 6’ metal fence post as a staff on occasion.

I have the idea that tough tension katas/excercises (such like sanchin in karate) could seriously damage one´s health,or/and make you pass out,as an example.But the subject is an alien to me anyway,in good hands,it could be beneficial?

I’ve done some before in Lau Gar. Not sure if they were purpose forms but the main exercise was complete tension starting at the feet.

Leaves you in complete sweat and every muscle aches. I felt a short term improvement but you really need to do it every week to feel proper benefit. Takes about 15 minutes in total. Knackering. Try it without forms.

Just stand in simple WC position and tense up everything from feet up. e.g: Tense feet count to 50 breaths, tense legs count to 50 breaths… at the end count 200 breaths then relax. Add in some tensed slow punches for variety.

Have fun :rolleyes: :smiley:

DS, What purpose do you think this traning served for combat?, like why did the founders doit?.

and you know what i’m talking about;)

They probually wanted something that built the body with no need for equipment. This would be a concern if trying to prepare a large number of fighters in a situation where the funding to supply them with weapons was hard enough. Dynamic tension setts allow you to strengthen your fighters quite a bit with out having to stock pile lots of wights and it also has the advantage of being able to take it with you wherever you go. If you are a traveling Monk and don’t have the ability to carry a small gym full of training equipment with you, dynamic tension execises would be perfect for you as they can be done anytime, anywhere with no hassles.

Just Curious, So For KungFu in Genral or any Martial Style?, What Would Be The Optimal Training Regimen in respects to discussion, like Bodybuilding is outs, aint no real usable strentgh thier compared to a cowboy farmer or construction worker, such as in the guiness book of world records thier is a 76 year cowboy from the south or midwest, he has/had? the record for ripping in half two quarters in one second!, So, I’m Thinking He must have awesome kinetic energy in his bridgehands from pulling horse?:cool: . This Is What I Would Like To Find Out More About in Relation To KF, Like What Types Of Strentgh Trainings Did SHaolin And Wudang Do that relates and is usable in your techniques?>

Whats With The ounciations at the beginning of our posts

PROBUAL GENRAL??WTF…

What Tibetan forum? :confused: :confused: :confused:

“Like Bodybuilding is outs, aint no real usable strentgh thier compared to a cowboy farmer or construction worker”

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True, but modern strength traingh for sports performance on the other hand is a whole different ball game, and the weight lifting done there gives LOTS of useable strength.

Also, a Cow boy and a Farmer or construction worker is NOT all that strong. Also the ones that are, lift weights on a regular basis. These are just rough and tumble guys who like physical activty so wieght lifting, body building and other athletic activtys just go with that personality type. It’s NOT the job, trust me that kind of work really wears you down, and most of those guys in there mid 30’s cant even run around the block anymore.

Yes, I do the 18 lohan- which we do with tension.

Diego - It’s better for toning than building really. The purpose is to toughen the body, but also to help concentration and relaxation. Can be used for any style.

And some guy ripped in half 2 quarters?

That’s impossible. Bullsh!t surely?!! :eek:

Allot of dynamic tension forms like the one RD does also are meant as a phase of iron body training. In some styles they are the complete iron body training, the dynamic tension is more for “hardening” the body rather than building strength(although it does both). In addition to that they also teach how to beat the iron body technique because many of the strikes go to specific acupoints.

RD- when you do the “double fingerjab” move, notice that it goes directly to the lung meridian, can’t think of the actual numbers of the points off the top of my head, get a chart and check each move most of then go to specific points(mostly “kill” points).

I can’t remember who asked it, but they asked about Sanchin being bad for your health and passing out, it CAN be bad just like if you were lifting weights and trying to hold your breath you can pass out. There are different styles of sanchin even some will have you inhale exhale just like when you are lifting weights and other methods have you hold your breath will tensing the muscles and doing the dynamic tension.

Chris

You are absolutly right about the Iron Body thing. Also, you are right about the striking pressure point thing, I didn’t think about that until after I posted the above and got off the computer.

Sanchin & breathing practices

www.tibetankungfu.com

and click on research papers link.

Tao.